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If she's getting it on with someone with no thought to their girlfriend's feelings, and this person happens to be her son's brother, then she deserves to be shamed to Mars and back.
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I was just thinking of the sexism claims, what would be said if a male character went with a mother and daughter ? I don't think anyone was calling Ross names but that's essentially what he did. Now Moira with a father a son will be called all sorts.
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I was just thinking of the sexism claims, what would be said if a male character went with a mother and daughter ? I don't think anyone was calling Ross names but that's essentially what he did. Now Moira with a father a son will be called all sorts.
However I just find the idea of Aunty Moira and Pete inappropriate in the sense that she knew him as a child. Ross did not have that kind of a relationship with charity so that's why it's slightly different for me Moira shouldn't be referred to a a slapper or a slut at all though. That's wrong and sexist. However I find the idea of her and Pete weird for the reasons I've given above. |
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And the current story-lines (apart from Ashley) do?
But not all episodes leave me with my mouth open, going, what the actual heck was that and did I dream it. That one did. Quote:
I was just thinking of the sexism claims, what would be said if a male character went with a mother and daughter ? I don't think anyone was calling Ross names but that's essentially what he did. Now Moira with a father a son will be called all sorts.
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And she's a good 15 years older than him, it just doesn't feel like it because he looks at least 35 himself.
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So they are revisiting this crap again?
![]() ![]() I'm sorry but no one wants to see this incestuous crap. So why do TPTB insist on forcing it down our throats. Coira is arguably the second most popular pairing on the show so why not get them back together and stop with this nonsense. |
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John and James were estranged for decades and even if Moira knew Pete as a kid, she wasn't around to see most of his childhood. The Barton boys didn't grow up with Moira acting as their aunty, so no she isn't in a position of care over Pete. He is a grown adult in his late 20s now anyway fgs
There is enough slut shaming of Moira on Emmerdale, without it happening on these boards as well. I swear it is the Barton family and Cain's mutual favourite pass time and it is a betrayal of her character imo that she never stands up for herself when it happens. That is not true to the Moira who came to the village in 2010. I am not comfortable with it but from what I can tell from the spoilers she is drunk and at a low ebb when this happens, so I will hold of judging until I see the scenes. |
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John and James were estranged for decades and even if Moira knew Pete as a kid, she wasn't around to see most of his childhood. The Barton boys didn't grow up with Moira acting as their aunty, so no she isn't in a position of care over Pete. He is a grown adult in his late 20s now anyway fgs
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There is enough slut shaming of Moira on Emmerdale, without it happening on these boards as well. I swear it is the Barton family and Cain's mutual favourite pass time and it is a betrayal of her character imo that she never stands up for herself when it happens. That is not true to the Moira who came to the village in 2010. I am not comfortable with it but from what I can tell from the spoilers she is drunk and at a low ebb when this happens, so I will hold of judging until I see the scenes. |
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It doesn't matter how often they saw each other, they clearly have an aunt/nephew relationship that dates back to Pete's childhood, it is absolutely disgusting that either one of them would be attracted to the other. Neither are blood related, both are consenting. It might not be to everyone's taste but it is not disgusting. What makes me feel uncomfortable is her history with his dad and the fact he is her sons brother. Not a non existent aunty/nephew relationship. |
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So they are revisiting this crap again?
![]() ![]() I'm sorry but no one wants to see this incestuous crap. So why do TPTB insist on forcing it down our throats. Coira is arguably the second most popular pairing on the show so why not get them back together and stop with this nonsense. I'm hoping the spoilers are bumping it up to be more than it actually is, because if they have a full-on sexual realtionship, then I can't see a way back for either character. |
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It does matter how often they saw each other actually (which is not once over a period of more than 20 years) because Pete did not grow up knowing Moira. They do not "clearly have and aunt/nephew relationship" The relationship they have was formed as adults. Pete clearly doesn't see her as an aunty and no amount of tantrum throwing by you or other viewers will change that.
Neither are blood related, both are consenting. It might not be to everyone's taste but it is not disgusting. What makes me feel uncomfortable is her history with his dad and the fact he is her sons brother. Not a non existent aunty/nephew relationship. You do make a valid point about Pete being Adam's half brother its all just too incestuous either way you look at it. I really wonder why they feel the need to go this route, there are plenty of other men they could have had Moira kiss instead of Pete. |
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Agreed, it's vile.
I'm hoping the spoilers are bumping it up to be more than it actually is, because if they have a full-on sexual realtionship, then I can't see a way back for either character.
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Good point.
But not all episodes leave me with my mouth open, going, what the actual heck was that and did I dream it. That one did. Plenty of people have called Ross all sorts - he's a proper man whore. The point still stands - men get away with it, women don't. But the difference with this one is, Ross wasn't in any kind of position of caring or responsibility over either Charity or Debbie. Moira is Pete's aunty. She knew him as a kiddie. And she's a good 15 years older than him, it just doesn't feel like it because he looks at least 35 himself.
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I don't know how I'd react to a relationship between the two. I really don't want to see one (mostly because Pete bores me to tears), but I wouldn't react so negatively that I'd switch off. It's just a terrible idea and I don't understand why Pete can't just be happy with Leyla.
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I really wonder why they feel the need to go this route, there are plenty of other men they could have had Moira kiss instead of Pete.
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So they are revisiting this crap again?
![]() ![]() I'm sorry but no one wants to see this incestuous crap. So why do TPTB insist on forcing it down our throats. Coira is arguably the second most popular pairing on the show so why not get them back together and stop with this nonsense. But that's Hollyoaks for ya. Quote:
John and James were estranged for decades and even if Moira knew Pete as a kid, she wasn't around to see most of his childhood. The Barton boys didn't grow up with Moira acting as their aunty, so no she isn't in a position of care over Pete. He is a grown adult in his late 20s now anyway fgs
There is enough slut shaming of Moira on Emmerdale, without it happening on these boards as well. I swear it is the Barton family and Cain's mutual favourite pass time and it is a betrayal of her character imo that she never stands up for herself when it happens. That is not true to the Moira who came to the village in 2010. I am not comfortable with it but from what I can tell from the spoilers she is drunk and at a low ebb when this happens, so I will hold of judging until I see the scenes. ) whereas Moira's a free agent.To be honest, it's probably only going to be a quick snog, anyway. |
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If they didn't have a aunt/nephew relationship why does he call her aunt? I have aunts that I've only see a couple times in life but I still wouldn't not look at them in a sexual manner. That is just a line you don't cross.
You do make a valid point about Pete being Adam's half brother its all just too incestuous either way you look at it. I really wonder why they feel the need to go this route, there are plenty of other men they could have had Moira kiss instead of Pete. At the end of the day, she is a woman that was once married to a now dead uncle who was estranged from his dad for nearly all of his life and who had no contact with from infancy until adulthood. He did not grow up knowing her as his aunty. End of story. It's really not that big of deal, calm down. Fancying your uncle's attractive wife is a tradition of English farce. |
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If that happens I will stop watching
![]() ![]() Charity and Cain are somehow related and they have been on/off for years. Not to mention Chas getting it on with Eli and Marlon. Also Debbie and Eli even had a thing. Its always the Dingles. |
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Does he? I know Finn does and Ross does (Ross does it more in a "p*ss taking" way more than a serious way) but Pete hasn't spoken about her in those terms recently if ever.
At the end of the day, she is a woman that was once married to a now dead uncle who was estranged from his dad for nearly all of his life and who had no contact with from infancy until adulthood. He did not grow up knowing her as his aunty. End of story. It's really not that big of deal, calm down. Fancying your uncle's attractive wife is a tradition of English farce. |
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Does he? I know Finn does and Ross does (Ross does it more in a "p*ss taking" way more than a serious way) but Pete hasn't spoken about her in those terms recently if ever.
At the end of the day, she is a woman that was once married to a now dead uncle who was estranged from his dad for nearly all of his life and who had no contact with from infancy until adulthood. He did not grow up knowing her as his aunty. End of story. It's really not that big of deal, calm down. Fancying your uncle's attractive wife is a tradition of English farce. The only one I know is in Iain Banks's The Crow Road, where Prentice sleeps with his "Aunty" Janice. Always makes me laugh. She's only a few years older than him, though.
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You'd be surprised. Over on Hollyoaks, I seem to remember incest was sometimes served up as being quite sexy.
But that's Hollyoaks for ya. I wasn't blaming Moira, the woman is in a dark place. I do think it makes Pete a proper creeper though - plus he's cheating on Lovely Leyla (who he never deserved in the first place ) whereas Moira's a free agent.To be honest, it's probably only going to be a quick snog, anyway. That said his brother Ross quite happily slept with a very drunk Kerry while he himself was sober a couple of months back so you never know (I don't know why ED seem to think it is ok to depict sex occurring under those circumstances, consensual sex certainly shouldn't happen when one person is sober and the other intoxicated) |
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If she has a drink in her and Pete is sober and he doesn't stop the kiss straight away then he should be ashamed of himself. But I think he will and the whole thing will be an embarrassing mess they both want to forget.
That said his brother Ross quite happily slept with a very drunk Kerry while he himself was sober a couple of months back so you never know (I don't know why ED seem to think it is ok to depict sex occurring under those circumstances, consensual sex certainly shouldn't happen when one person is sober and the other intoxicated) |
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John and James were estranged for decades and even if Moira knew Pete as a kid, she wasn't around to see most of his childhood. The Barton boys didn't grow up with Moira acting as their aunty, so no she isn't in a position of care over Pete. He is a grown adult in his late 20s now anyway fgs
There is enough slut shaming of Moira on Emmerdale, without it happening on these boards as well. I swear it is the Barton family and Cain's mutual favourite pass time and it is a betrayal of her character imo that she never stands up for herself when it happens. That is not true to the Moira who came to the village in 2010. I am not comfortable with it but from what I can tell from the spoilers she is drunk and at a low ebb when this happens, so I will hold of judging until I see the scenes. Pete actually worries me more. He seems to have real feelings for her that can't t be put down to irrational behaviour in the course of grief. I reckon he' ll put the moves on her and she'll maybe respond in the heat of the moment but see sense. I don't t really like Moira but she deserves a bit of understanding and sympathy at the moment, she's s in a bad way. As I' ve said before though, I think this is a plot device - Emma will find out and use it against her, her precious boy of course being blameless ![]() I think there' s also a danger of generalising too. I don't think we are all slut shaming when we criticise Moira. Just like all the others she does things that earn the criticism. Although I suspect that in this scenario Pete will be the guilty one
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If she has a drink in her and Pete is sober and he doesn't stop the kiss straight away then he should be ashamed of himself. But I think he will and the whole thing will be an embarrassing mess they both want to forget.
That said his brother Ross quite happily slept with a very drunk Kerry while he himself was sober a couple of months back so you never know (I don't know why ED seem to think it is ok to depict sex occurring under those circumstances, consensual sex certainly shouldn't happen when one person is sober and the other intoxicated) |
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Kerry wasn't very drunk at all, she was a bit tipsy at the worst. She was on her way into town to get very drunk.
No mater what stage of drunk we are talking, if you are sober and your perspective conquest isn't, you do not go there. |
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But not all episodes leave me with my mouth open, going, what the actual heck was that and did I dream it. That one did. 

