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Old 22-12-2016, 21:58
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I'm disappointed in Moira now tbh. Like most people, I know what a terrible thing grief is but it really doesn't give you an excuse for the total selfishness and self-centredness that she's been showing ever since she lost Holly.

As for Pete, who is no longer MyLovelyPete, what another cheating scumbag. He's only been lucky enough to have Leyla for 5 bloody minutes and he still can't resist taking advantage of Moira's grief just for the sake of a quick shag.
In fairness though it takes two, and Pete doesn't advance if Moira doesn't wish
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:18
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Fair enough, but you can apply that just as easily to Pete, that's my point. But I understand you're being bias, that's okay. I can be bias too. I mean I think we all are at some stage.

Yeah! I'm liking the new emojis, very festive and fun.
Pete did not go to wake up his beloved daughter, having supported her through years of heroin addiction, to find her dead in bed. It's not the same.

I'm disappointed in Moira now tbh. Like most people, I know what a terrible thing grief is but it really doesn't give you an excuse for the total selfishness and self-centredness that she's been showing ever since she lost Holly.

As for Pete, who is no longer MyLovelyPete, what another cheating scumbag. He's only been lucky enough to have Leyla for 5 bloody minutes and he still can't resist taking advantage of Moira's grief just for the sake of a quick shag.
Pete is not, and never has been, worthy of the Lovely Leyla. What he did was seriously rank. At least Moira wasn't with anyone else, and lying to them.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:18
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Why has Moira been given a personality transplant. Her character is being ruined.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:22
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In fairness though it takes two, and Pete doesn't advance if Moira doesn't wish
I know. That's why I'm calling them both out on it equally. They both behaved very badly imo.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:24
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What a shocking Twist
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:36
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What gets me about the Emmerdale story lines are that Emma has got off scott free whereas Moira gets the sick bits like getting it on with her nephew. Who is writing this stuff?
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:46
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What a shocking Twist

What a disgusting twist!
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:56
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Why has Moira been given a personality transplant. Her character is being ruined.
She hasn't been given a personality transplant and her character isn't being ruined (I hate that phrase, so and so's character is ruined, it's used so often on this forum). She's grieving for the daughter she found dead in bed of a drugs overdose and isn't coping with her grief.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:14
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They've been ruining the character since John's death.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:25
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I don't like this twist but to me it isn't that out of character they've created.

When Moira and John first arrived it was made out that they were a very happy couple who had been true to each other throughout their relationship so when she started a fling with Cain because John wasn't giving her attention (as he was trying to build up their business) I was foaming but that unfortunately seems to be the route they've gone down with her.

We later found out that another time when her and John were having troubles early in their relationship she shagged her husband's brother James and Adam was the result! Guess who got most of the shit for it? *roll eyes*

She had a fling with Cain, broke her husband's heart and he tragically died when they were trying to repair their relationship. Moira was distraught and yup! She ended up having a fling with Alex Moss who worked on her farm but who hid from her the fact that he was in a relationship with Victoria. Guess who Victoria blamed? *roll eyes*

Since then there's been random shag(s) with James and now she's done a hat trick and shagged James's son/her late husband's nephew Pete! Way to go Moira! Just Ross and Finn to go *roll eyes*

Moira gets traumatised/upset, sooner or later she'll shag someone. If they were single and not a relative it would be OK but the fact that sometimes they're attached and often relatives (in-laws but still relatives) it's all a bit grimy.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:34
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What a shocking Twist
"Shocking" in more ways than one...

Moira has now slept with 3 members of the same family. She is the Jack Branning of the Dales!
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:40
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I agree. Her head' s all over the place just now. He's fancied her for ages, he' d be in there like a rat up a drainpipe
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:43
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I agree. Her head' s all over the place just now. He's fancied her for ages, he' d be in there like a rat up a drainpipe
Pete's behaviour is just gross. So much for his Mr Nice Guy act. I hope Leyla kicks him in the nuts when she finds out the truth!
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:51
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Leyla should do a Debbie and get with Ross. That should teach cheating Pete a thing or two.
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Old 23-12-2016, 00:22
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Pete did not go to wake up his beloved daughter, having supported her through years of heroin addiction, to find her dead in bed. It's not the same.



Pete is not, and never has been, worthy of the Lovely Leyla. What he did was seriously rank. At least Moira wasn't with anyone else, and lying to them.
Eh? They've both lost a loved one in tragic and mysterious circumstancess. Many people in real life, like Pete, often wake up to news from the police that their child or parent is dead - it doesn't make it any less painful than someone who has found a loved one dead. Her loss isn't any greater or any more traumatic than his. I'm not sure what you mean by "it's not the same" but okay...

Obviously discovering your daughter dead in bed is horrible, but you can't say: "Well It's not the same because Moira found her daughter dead in bed and Pete didn't."

At least Moira knows how her daughter died so she can find some closure, Pete and his brothers have no real clue what happened to James despite their mother's lies. If anything, Pete has more reason to be messed up about James's death than Moira about Holly's death.

Loss is loss. Grief is grief. It's hard on everyone involved. You can't quantify it.
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Old 23-12-2016, 00:26
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Eh? They've both lost a loved one in tragic and mysterious circumstancess. Many people in real life, like Pete, often wake up to news from the police that their child or parent is dead - it doesn't make it any less painful than someone who has found a loved one dead. Her loss isn't any greater or any more traumatic than his. I'm not sure what you mean by "it's not the same" but okay...

Obviously discovering your daughter dead in bed is horrible, but you can't say: "Well It's not the same because Moira found her daughter dead in bed and Pete didn't."

At least Moira knows how her daughter died so she can find some closure, Pete and his brothers have no real clue what happened to James despite their mother's lies.

Loss is loss. It's hard on everyone involved.
I think what Cyril was implying is that Moira's grief would've been a lot different to Pete because she lost a child. Pete is obviously devastated at his dad's death, but losing your own child is a different kind of pain altogether.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:10
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I think what Cyril was implying is that Moira's grief would've been a lot different to Pete because she lost a child. Pete is obviously devastated at his dad's death, but losing your own child is a different kind of pain altogether.
I get that totally, but to me you can't really measure grief like that. Because you end up going down the road of "my grief is bigger than your grief!" and that's a slippery slope to go down. You have to remember that Pete was very close to James (unlike Ross) just like Moira and her daughter.

The circumstances of both deaths are terrible for the victims. I think it's best left there. Pete's just better at coping with his loss in a more mature (and boring) way.

But getting back to the real point here... what I was trying to say was that Moira isn't any more vulnerable than Pete at this moment in time because they've both suffered a loss, so I don't think you can say he's taking advantage when Moira's the one who ran across the kitchen to snog him lol! Nor does it excuse her selfish and reckless behaviour tonight. In my eyes, they're both to blame and are as icky as each other.

That's not saying I hate Moira or anything, I think the writing is letting her down IMO.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:41
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I mean it was bound to happen, and i think this attraction is going to last, like Pete said it was unfinished business and also that element of knowing that cant be together, well in Pete's case knowing he cant be with her
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Old 23-12-2016, 02:42
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I haven't lost a parent or a child but I can't t imagine that anything would be worse than to lose a child. Parents never stop wanting to protect their children no matter how old they grow. It seems to me that it's s a basic primal instinct to try to keep their children alive. I' m not diminishing the loss of a parent - I absolutely dread it happening to me, but on some level I think we understand as we age that our parents will probably die before us, and that this is what they would want. Obviously Pete would not have expected his father, a healthy middle aged man to die so young, but bad as his grief will be, I can' t help thinking that he will be able to accept what has happened more easily, because painful though it is, it is the natural order of things.

Moira' s coping with not only this terrible loss, but also a divorce and the death of a close friend. No wonder she' s lost the plot. She must feel like she's s holding on to sanity by her fingertips, and this is someone very mentally healthy and resilient. I mean I still grieve for my beloved childhood dog, but I' m not what you' d call well balanced Moira' s 100 times more resilient and positive in normal circumstances, so that indicates how much Holly's s death has affected her.

Also Pete' s done a right number on Cain just to protect his dirty little secret and his three week old relationshipYet another ' decent character' who' s really a bit of a sh&t. ' Doing it for Moira,' my foot! ' Doing it so I don't get battered and lose my girlfriend' more like.

Although I' m still struggling to see how a vechile going 2mph caused such damage
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Old 23-12-2016, 05:08
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Well, I think it depends on what sort of family you come from and in a lot of cases your culture and/or religion too... In my family, it works differently.
I don't think everyone has the same mindset about loss and grief. I respect both viewpoints posed by myself and Cyril.

Nevertheless, I still don't see how it's Pete's fault that Moira sprinted across the kitchen like Usain Bolt to snog his face off . It takes two to tango and all that. I would say grief is irrelevant at this point. Most people with common sense, regardless whether they are suffering with grief or not, know it's wrong and icky to kiss their nephew/aunt and vice versa.
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Old 23-12-2016, 05:17
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It seems to be generally considered harder to lose a child. I don't hear people saying "no child should outlive their parents" and I can't imagine that many people would choose to lose a child over a parent. Not saying that losing a parent isn't hard. Of course it is. I can't even imagine how I'd feel.

This storyline is just pointless though. Pete knows what it's like to be cheated on, but he respects Leyla so little, that he didn't even give cheating on her a second thought.

Moira should know better by now. I'm sick of her immaturity. I'm not looking forward to the reaction from Ross though. No doubt he'll get up on his sexist high horse, blame Moira for everything and act like he's Mr Perfect.
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Old 23-12-2016, 05:42
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I agree, most people would likely choose to lose a parent over a child if they had to pick. Children will always come first (in the eyes of both parents and grandparents) and are seen as more of a priority regardless of potential grief.

In the end, both scenarios are tragic and doesn't bear thinking about. I certainly wouldn't presume to think my grief is worse than anyone else's, though.
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Old 23-12-2016, 08:47
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It wouldn't be so bad if the show was actually trying to tell some kind of narrative about the attraction between a woman and her nephew - the moral struggle against something that is generally seen as morally wrong with most folks.

But its not - its all just been some contrived off-screen sexual hook up - no doubt to create the jeopardy of the timebomb of psycho Emma going all psycho again.



ps - on a sidenote
Other than Cain - every guy Moira has shagged has ended up dead - are Pete's days numbered
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:49
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It wouldn't be so bad if the show was actually trying to tell some kind of narrative about the attraction between a woman and her nephew - the moral struggle against something that is generally seen as morally wrong with most folks.

But its not - its all just been some contrived off-screen sexual hook up - no doubt to create the jeopardy of the timebomb of psycho Emma going all psycho again.



ps - on a sidenote
Other than Cain - every guy Moira has shagged has ended up dead - are Pete's days numbered
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:59
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This is lazy writing of all the ways a person may go off the rails when grieving to make it she sleeps with her nephew is just lazy and headline grabbing. The drinking isn't exactly clever writing either.
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