Push To Talk (PTT), What's It All About (merged)

pje1979 · 16-05-2005, 11:42

I heave heard they have this service in the USA and we are soon to get it here. Can someone explain exactly how it works? I watched a programme about it but it didn't really explain very well. Do you just send a voice message in a simlar way to a text and then you get charged per message?

16-05-2005, 12:16

As far as I can ascertain, it would seem to be some way of making handsets in short range of each other act like 'walkie-talkies', therefore bypassing the cellular network.

In this day and age of 100s of X-Net, Anytime minutes, it seems very gimmicky and would only have limited appeal. I can't see what the network operators will gain out of it anyway. They'd have to pitch it so cheaply because otherwise why not just make a phone call, or go over to the other person and have [gasp!] a face to face conversation.

chrisjr · 16-05-2005, 12:48

It is a way of contacting another mobile, or several mobiles at the same time, with a simple press of a button. The difference though between Push to Talk and say a speed dial is that the recepient of the call does not have to answer in order for the caller to be heard.

The service uses what is in effect an "always on" connection between the mobiles rather than the normal mobile dial up network. So it would require the network to have this service enabled as well as the phones.

There is a description of the service on the Nokia website. And the FAQ page might also be of interest.

16-05-2005, 13:10

It was used in Season 2 of '24' when Jack was in the seedy bar, meeting the rogue ranger, and he wanted the girl... he used PTT with the foreign intelligence guy who was outside.

Its quite a nifty feature, and probably will replace short-range walkie-talkies.

malcolm_young · 16-05-2005, 14:49

When working in america, i used it virtually everyday. Over there they use it more than text messages,

I found it was great for using it the workplace to keep track of other people, and you can get in contact with them even if they are not in the workplace not to sure on the range tho

stickworlduk · 16-05-2005, 14:52

Ooooo so it turns your phone into a walkie talkie. wow fun!

16-05-2005, 16:53

OMG, this sounds like the basis of the mother of all nightmares.

Not only will you get the current nauseating ringtones going off whilst trying to watch the latest movie at the flicks, but now you’ll have every tom, dick & chav with their phones open for all to hear their inane mates chatter.

Or worse still, whilst you’re having your 2 minute comfort break at work, you’ll be interrupted by the boss yelling over the open phone “Where the f*** are you? – Get your a*** over ‘ere now!”, no doubt to the great amusement of others.

pje1979 · 16-05-2005, 18:07

How is it charged then? So much per message?

EmbEn · 16-05-2005, 20:24

I saw this on the gadget show. Its always on and very cheap to run (about the same as a text message) plus you can call anyone anywhere in the world with say 50 people in one call. It looks very good and its very popular in the usa.

17-05-2005, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawson

OMG, this sounds like the basis of the mother of all nightmares.

Yep. Just because it's popular in the States, *does not* make it right or good. Look, they don't 'get' text messaging, but they're desperate to turn their mobile phones into bloody CB radios.

Fight it.

starsky · 17-05-2005, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by pje1979

How is it charged then? So much per message?

It should be free. By the sounds of it its going to be a feature of the phone rather than a service provided by your network.

If they do charge for it then a phone manufacturer will just make a phone that dosnt require the network to opperate and they will make a killing.

17-05-2005, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by starsky

It should be free. By the sounds of it its going to be a feature of the phone rather than a service provided by your network.

If they do charge for it then a phone manufacturer will just make a phone that dosnt require the network to opperate and they will make a killing.

I doubt it will be free - it appears to work over a network.

If it just relied on the handset, all you'll end up with is a handset with a built in walkie-talkie with its restricted coverage - similar to those walkie-talkies available in Argos today for about £20. Anything greater would require you to obtain a radio operators licence.

kev · 17-05-2005, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawson

OMG, this sounds like the basis of the mother of all nightmares.

Not only will you get the current nauseating ringtones going off whilst trying to watch the latest movie at the flicks, but now you’ll have every tom, dick & chav with their phones open for all to hear their inane mates chatter.

Or worse still, whilst you’re having your 2 minute comfort break at work, you’ll be interrupted by the boss yelling over the open phone “Where the f*** are you? – Get your a*** over ‘ere now!”, no doubt to the great amusement of others.

Good, it's bad enough with the Chavs listening to 50 Cent (it's always 50 bloody Cent!) on there Three mobiles (It's always Three!) via the bloody speakerphone on public transport. I don't want to here there mates telling them to get some woodpecker and lambert and butler fags as well.

To me it sounds like the most stupid idea ever, you'd just here some random voice coming out your phone!

dixie.rodel · 17-05-2005, 18:14

Scusee me.... chavs smoke Mayfair.
Lol

17-05-2005, 19:05

I am thinking this will be similar to the police’s radio and what is the first thing a police officer does when in the vicinity of or talking face to face with someone? Turns the radio down so it doesn’t cause annoyance/distraction.

Somehow, I can’t see the local chavs being so courteous.

kev · 17-05-2005, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawson

I am thinking this will be similar to the police’s radio and what is the first thing a police officer does when in the vicinity of or talking face to face with someone? Turns the radio down so it doesn’t cause annoyance/distraction.

Somehow, I can’t see the local chavs being so courteous.

I'm not thinking of the Chavs, but people like my mum who wouldn't have the foggiest idea of how to turn it off, or people like my gran would get confused with random voices coming from the telephone.

munta · 24-05-2005, 22:02

PTT is nothing to do with radio.
PTT is not short range
PTT requires no licening

Push to Talk is a simple application where the phone has software built in that compresses voice and sends it via the normal network as data.

The reason why the operators are not embracing it yet is that it will lose them cash. PTT cost a lot less to send than a text message even at the extortionate rates that data is charged at.

bluesnow · 25-05-2005, 07:57

I'll guess and say i think it sends the data over GPRS as that is an always on connection.

the_saint_2005 · 25-05-2005, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixie.rodel

Scusee me.... chavs smoke Mayfair.
Lol

Chavs usually ask for 20 of the cheapest cigs available. Only not as eloquently.

freetoview · 14-06-2005, 22:49

Does PUSH TO TALK actually work in the UK at the moment?

Next week i am buying the 6230i and it has Push To Talk as part of the Menu according to the pictures on the nokia site.

Does it work with any GPRS?

Is it charged the same as GPRS?

(I am on Tesco Mobile)

kingdave · 14-06-2005, 23:20

I don't even get what it is?! How is it any different from making a phone call?!

15-06-2005, 01:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdave

I don't even get what it is?! How is it any different from making a phone call?!

This thread should help you:

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=219178

The couple of links in post #3 of that thread have more info.

flagpole · 15-06-2005, 11:47

We understand the difference between Push and Pull right???

And the word Push does not refer to the fact that you push a button!?!?!?!?

freetoview · 15-06-2005, 16:37

So does it actually work at the moment then?

flagpole · 16-06-2005, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by freetoview

So does it actually work at the moment then?

no

(now what to do with the remaining 10 characters...)

16-05-2005, 11:42	#1
pje1979 Guest Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,568	Push To Talk (PTT), What's It All About I heave heard they have this service in the USA and we are soon to get it here. Can someone explain exactly how it works? I watched a programme about it but it didn't really explain very well. Do you just send a voice message in a simlar way to a text and then you get charged per message?

14-06-2005, 22:49	#20
freetoview Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rotherham Posts: 542	Push To Talk Does PUSH TO TALK actually work in the UK at the moment? Next week i am buying the 6230i and it has Push To Talk as part of the Menu according to the pictures on the nokia site. Does it work with any GPRS? Is it charged the same as GPRS? (I am on Tesco Mobile)

16-05-2005, 12:16	#2
UNcabled Posts: n/a	As far as I can ascertain, it would seem to be some way of making handsets in short range of each other act like 'walkie-talkies', therefore bypassing the cellular network. In this day and age of 100s of X-Net, Anytime minutes, it seems very gimmicky and would only have limited appeal. I can't see what the network operators will gain out of it anyway. They'd have to pitch it so cheaply because otherwise why not just make a phone call, or go over to the other person and have [gasp!] a face to face conversation.

16-05-2005, 12:48	#3
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	It is a way of contacting another mobile, or several mobiles at the same time, with a simple press of a button. The difference though between Push to Talk and say a speed dial is that the recepient of the call does not have to answer in order for the caller to be heard. The service uses what is in effect an "always on" connection between the mobiles rather than the normal mobile dial up network. So it would require the network to have this service enabled as well as the phones. There is a description of the service on the Nokia website. And the FAQ page might also be of interest.

16-05-2005, 13:10	#4
rossonthenet Posts: n/a	It was used in Season 2 of '24' when Jack was in the seedy bar, meeting the rogue ranger, and he wanted the girl... he used PTT with the foreign intelligence guy who was outside. Its quite a nifty feature, and probably will replace short-range walkie-talkies.

16-05-2005, 14:49	#5
malcolm_young Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: inverness Posts: 21	When working in america, i used it virtually everyday. Over there they use it more than text messages, I found it was great for using it the workplace to keep track of other people, and you can get in contact with them even if they are not in the workplace not to sure on the range tho

16-05-2005, 14:52	#6
stickworlduk Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 53	Ooooo so it turns your phone into a walkie talkie. wow fun!

16-05-2005, 16:53	#7
dawson Posts: n/a	OMG, this sounds like the basis of the mother of all nightmares. Not only will you get the current nauseating ringtones going off whilst trying to watch the latest movie at the flicks, but now you’ll have every tom, dick & chav with their phones open for all to hear their inane mates chatter. Or worse still, whilst you’re having your 2 minute comfort break at work, you’ll be interrupted by the boss yelling over the open phone “Where the f* are you? – Get your a* over ‘ere now!”, no doubt to the great amusement of others.

16-05-2005, 18:07	#8
pje1979 Guest Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,568	How is it charged then? So much per message?

16-05-2005, 20:24	#9
EmbEn Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 750	I saw this on the gadget show. Its always on and very cheap to run (about the same as a text message) plus you can call anyone anywhere in the world with say 50 people in one call. It looks very good and its very popular in the usa.

17-05-2005, 00:34	#10
UNcabled Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by dawson OMG, this sounds like the basis of the mother of all nightmares. Yep. Just because it's popular in the States, does not make it right or good. Look, they don't 'get' text messaging, but they're desperate to turn their mobile phones into bloody CB radios. Fight it.

17-05-2005, 05:56	#11
starsky Banned User Join Date: May 2005 Location: London Posts: 660	Quote: Originally Posted by pje1979 How is it charged then? So much per message? It should be free. By the sounds of it its going to be a feature of the phone rather than a service provided by your network. If they do charge for it then a phone manufacturer will just make a phone that dosnt require the network to opperate and they will make a killing.

17-05-2005, 16:47	#12
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by starsky It should be free. By the sounds of it its going to be a feature of the phone rather than a service provided by your network. If they do charge for it then a phone manufacturer will just make a phone that dosnt require the network to opperate and they will make a killing. I doubt it will be free - it appears to work over a network. If it just relied on the handset, all you'll end up with is a handset with a built in walkie-talkie with its restricted coverage - similar to those walkie-talkies available in Argos today for about £20. Anything greater would require you to obtain a radio operators licence.

17-05-2005, 17:55	#13
kev Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: South Notts (Waltham TV TX) Posts: 20,200	Quote: Originally Posted by dawson OMG, this sounds like the basis of the mother of all nightmares. Not only will you get the current nauseating ringtones going off whilst trying to watch the latest movie at the flicks, but now you’ll have every tom, dick & chav with their phones open for all to hear their inane mates chatter. Or worse still, whilst you’re having your 2 minute comfort break at work, you’ll be interrupted by the boss yelling over the open phone “Where the f* are you? – Get your a* over ‘ere now!”, no doubt to the great amusement of others. Good, it's bad enough with the Chavs listening to 50 Cent (it's always 50 bloody Cent!) on there Three mobiles (It's always Three!) via the bloody speakerphone on public transport. I don't want to here there mates telling them to get some woodpecker and lambert and butler fags as well. To me it sounds like the most stupid idea ever, you'd just here some random voice coming out your phone!

17-05-2005, 18:14	#14
dixie.rodel Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 78	Scusee me.... chavs smoke Mayfair. Lol

17-05-2005, 19:05	#15
dawson Posts: n/a	I am thinking this will be similar to the police’s radio and what is the first thing a police officer does when in the vicinity of or talking face to face with someone? Turns the radio down so it doesn’t cause annoyance/distraction. Somehow, I can’t see the local chavs being so courteous.

17-05-2005, 19:18	#16
kev Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: South Notts (Waltham TV TX) Posts: 20,200	Quote: Originally Posted by dawson I am thinking this will be similar to the police’s radio and what is the first thing a police officer does when in the vicinity of or talking face to face with someone? Turns the radio down so it doesn’t cause annoyance/distraction. Somehow, I can’t see the local chavs being so courteous. I'm not thinking of the Chavs, but people like my mum who wouldn't have the foggiest idea of how to turn it off, or people like my gran would get confused with random voices coming from the telephone.

24-05-2005, 22:02	#17
munta Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The United Kingdom Posts: 15,551	PTT is nothing to do with radio. PTT is not short range PTT requires no licening Push to Talk is a simple application where the phone has software built in that compresses voice and sends it via the normal network as data. The reason why the operators are not embracing it yet is that it will lose them cash. PTT cost a lot less to send than a text message even at the extortionate rates that data is charged at.

25-05-2005, 07:57	#18
bluesnow Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kent Posts: 440	I'll guess and say i think it sends the data over GPRS as that is an always on connection.

25-05-2005, 22:55	#19
the_saint_2005 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The North Posts: 3,049	Quote: Originally Posted by dixie.rodel Scusee me.... chavs smoke Mayfair. Lol Chavs usually ask for 20 of the cheapest cigs available. Only not as eloquently.

14-06-2005, 23:20	#21
kingdave Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,314	I don't even get what it is?! How is it any different from making a phone call?!

15-06-2005, 01:33	#22
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by kingdave I don't even get what it is?! How is it any different from making a phone call?! This thread should help you: http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=219178 The couple of links in post #3 of that thread have more info.

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Push To Talk (PTT), What's It All About (merged)

15-06-2005, 11:47	#23
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	We understand the difference between Push and Pull right??? And the word Push does not refer to the fact that you push a button!?!?!?!?

15-06-2005, 16:37	#24
freetoview Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rotherham Posts: 542	So does it actually work at the moment then?

16-06-2005, 11:19	#25
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by freetoview So does it actually work at the moment then? no (now what to do with the remaining 10 characters...)