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Old 01-12-2016, 08:02
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A VT of Saara visiting the Finnish embassy is this week. Since day 1 I knew when this happened Saara is out. Your thoughts?
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:29
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Embassy VT won't change the fact that Saara will be in top 2. Emily and 5AM will fight for place in the final.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:58
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It will. Look up sofabet.. They are great analysts.
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:48
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Would something like that be detrimental to votes? I mean I know sometimes a bad VT can impact voting but I don't think a Finnish embassy would qualify. Surely the song choice and performance are more influential?

Anyway, I hope not. I'd hate to think Sara has been sabotaged a week before the final. She's earned her place and deserves to go through.
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:54
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I'm confused, why will this mean Saara will be out?
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:06
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I'm confused, why will this mean Saara will be out?
Racists.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:07
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I suspect it won't harm her a bit - remember, we're in December now, and Finland is where Lapland is - get ready for her being branded the most Christmassy contestant ever, along with an endorsement from Santa!!!

She came into the show with her whole 'Snow Fairy' thing. Honestly, if it were any other country, I'd agree that it would hammer home the whole 'foreigner' trope that got Andrea and Ruth eventually dumped, but I rather suspect she's played a blinder this time round - especially with the Christmas song theme!
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:08
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Thanks for your analysis. Yours is the type I was looking for.

Let's hope your true.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:09
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The theory goes that it was used to derail Andrea Faustini basically by reminding people they're foreign and it'll be enough to moblise votes behind the 'British' X Factor finalists. Can have a foreigner winning one of our talent shows is supposedly the required effect.

I'm not sure its the case with Saara though, she hasn't exactly been played down on her Finnish roots and has had VTS in Finnish and they haven't affected her vote- I genuinely don't think this is a tactic to try and get her out, we'll know more when it comes to song choices and stuff
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:50
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, we'll know more when it comes to song choices and stuff
Out of curiosity when do we find out the song choices for this week?
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:15
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Out of curiosity when do we find out the song choices for this week?
We might get a hint later about the songs on X Factor Twitter but they should be announced tomorrow morning
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:36
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The theory goes that it was used to derail Andrea Faustini basically by reminding people they're foreign and it'll be enough to moblise votes behind the 'British' X Factor finalists. Can have a foreigner winning one of our talent shows is supposedly the required effect.

I'm not sure its the case with Saara though, she hasn't exactly been played down on her Finnish roots and has had VTS in Finnish and they haven't affected her vote- I genuinely don't think this is a tactic to try and get her out, we'll know more when it comes to song choices and stuff
Again, where's the evidence for this sort of thing? People genuinely think that they producers are some kind machiavellian geniuses, they we as the 'switched on' viewers are outsmarting. It's absurd, funny but weird and absurd.

Embassy VT won't change the fact that Saara will be in top 2. Emily and 5AM will fight for place in the final.
You know this... how? You shouldn't make certain claims where you know they're approximations or opinions not back by any substantive evidence.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:59
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You know this... how? You shouldn't make certain claims where you know they're approximations or opinions not back by any substantive evidence.
Tellymix poll has been spot on last couple of weeks. Look at the poll now:
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...te-vote-4.html
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:28
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A VT of Saara visiting the Finnish embassy is this week. Since day 1 I knew when this happened Saara is out. Your thoughts?
yes they want saara out by triggering a brexit vote.
but the public might decide to keep her in.
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Old 01-12-2016, 13:11
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I don't think it is a secret that Saara is from Finland. Of all the Sofabet conspiracy theories this is one of the strangest.
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Old 01-12-2016, 13:22
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I don't think it is a secret that Saara is from Finland. Of all the Sofabet conspiracy theories this is one of the strangest.
I misread that as 'Santa is from Finland' and was, like, 'duh'!

No, actually I think Saara's nationality has been her USP, rather than an awkward hindrance. Someone else mentioned her near perfect English, and you could compare that to other non-British or Irish nationals in XF, who have often had heavily accented English, and presented more definitively within their nationalities (Andrea especially).

It's awful to make such a distinction, but I suspect Saara's northern European/Nordic roots, and their propensity for speaking flawless English, do help cancel out any perception of 'foreignness'. She's quirky enough to be different, but not 'foreign' enough to be unrelatable.
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Old 01-12-2016, 15:17
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didnt reggie & bollie visit an embassy too? Ghana i think?
yet still end up at runner up
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Old 01-12-2016, 16:33
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I'm confused, why will this mean Saara will be out?
I'm confused too, maybe the OP could explain.
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Old 01-12-2016, 16:36
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It will. Look up sofabet.. They are great analysts.
So now I have taken time to look at this thread properly I'm taking it you are basing I on the evaluation of the bookies. Not a very reliable barometer old egg.


Blimey the bloke that runs sofabet has too much time on his hands.
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Old 01-12-2016, 17:06
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So now I have taken time to look at this thread properly I'm taking it you are basing I on the evaluation of the bookies. Not a very reliable barometer old egg.


Blimey the bloke that runs sofabet has too much time on his hands.
He probably does considering he was able to quit his day job with his winnings from betting on shows like X-Factor.
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Old 01-12-2016, 17:52
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He probably does considering he was able to quit his day job with his winnings from betting on shows like X-Factor.
Still I wouldn't stake my shirt on any betting statistics being a barometer of how the show will precede. After all that is not the point. The point is, how much will the bookies get.
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Old 01-12-2016, 18:07
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Tellymix poll has been spot on last couple of weeks. Look at the poll now:
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...te-vote-4.html
At the time of typing this, Saara is on 52.19%
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Old 01-12-2016, 18:30
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It's well known that Saara's from Finland so I doubt that shoving this in the face of viewers should make any difference. It shouldn't do anyway. She said she was from Finland in her audition. Besides, her accent gives it away anyway.
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Old 01-12-2016, 19:24
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It's well known that Saara's from Finland so I doubt that shoving this in the face of viewers should make any difference. It shouldn't do anyway. She said she was from Finland in her audition. Besides, her accent gives it away anyway.
I think that's part of her appeal. That she's got a nice accent from a country that everyone is curious about. I hope it will help her more than anything.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:37
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Has anyone here ever encountered racism towards Finnish people?
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