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Old 01-12-2016, 22:37
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Carol just said on itv2 extra camp that Martin is being picked on and that there is a lot we don't see. She said she liked him. That must go against the grain for the producers and presenters
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:38
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That line of questioning was shut off very quickly as soon as she said that.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:39
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Wow good old carole, shes goes up in my estimation more and more, wonderful lady who should still be in there, good on you Carole for your honesty.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:41
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Why can't any of the presenters display a impartial view. Its a competition!
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:42
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Why can't any of the presenters display a impartial view. Its a competition!
....because they have zero class and/or intelligence
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:44
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....because they have zero class and/or intelligence
Probably also have to suck up to those who pay their wages so toe their party line, which they seem to do with relish.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:45
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I loved Carol. She is clearly a very kind, intelligent person who is able to see exactly what was happening and tells it like it is.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:46
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I still stand by what I was saying about her fake laugh in the early episodes, but I guess it was just early nerves and trying a bit too hard for her own good, I definitely warmed to Carol though as the show went on and she was a classy interviewee tonight.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:48
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I loved Carol. She is clearly a very kind, intelligent person who is able to see exactly what was happening and tells it like it is.
Me, too. I wanted her to win.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:49
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Joe seemed to be trying to entice her to slag Martin off but Carol wasn't having it. "I like Martin" "You did like Martin" "No, (pointing finger at Swash) I DO like "Martin"
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:49
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Probably also have to suck up to those who pay their wages so toe their party line, which they seem to do with relish.
Zippy and Bungle made better presenters than these gimps
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:49
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She also intimated that Larry picked on Martin. I can well believe it, and I liked Larry at the start. I thought he was so rude Martin
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:50
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Zippy and Bungle made better presenters than these gimps
I might be more inclined to watch if Zippy and Bungle presented it
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:51
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I still stand by what I was saying about her fake laugh in the early episodes, but I guess it was just early nerves and trying a bit too hard for her own good, I definitely warmed to Carol though as the show went on and she was a classy interviewee tonight.
Me too Geisty I didnt care for her much at the start, but wow shes one classy lady, well done Carole.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:51
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Joe seemed to be trying to entice her to slag Martin off but Carol wasn't having it. "I like Martin" "You did like Martin" "No, (pointing finger at Swash) I DO like "Martin"
I must watch that on catch up tomorrow
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:52
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Zippy and Bungle made better presenters than these gimps
To be fair, they may as well replace half of them with anthropomorphic puppets like they do on kid's TV when doing it on the cheap.
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:52
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Zippy and Bungle made better presenters than these gimps
well said. These 4 are awful. There's no fluidity. They are so amateurish. Bring back Laura!
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Old 01-12-2016, 22:58
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That line of questioning was shut off very quickly as soon as she said that.
Wow, wasn't it just ! Well done Carol for not following the herd in the ITV2 camp and for telling it like it really is before they could stop you !
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:04
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Carol is her own woman and was just telling the truth. After all the anti-Martin bias by producers and presenters, I would love him to win! Against all odds
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:16
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The most interesting thing that Carol said before they muzzled her with a different line of questioning, is the hint that there was stuff that wasn't picked up by the cameras. Specifically regarding Martin being picked on.

She's obviously been told about the highlights and has had a whole day now to be made aware of how things were coming across on TV.

It makes you wonder what was left on the cutting room floor after anti-bullying charities got in contact with the show. Martin could, and probably HAS, had a far rougher ride than what we as the viewing public have seen.
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:17
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Does anyone remember Carol sitting up in the garden telling Ola she felt sorry for Martin and said something like I sometimes wish he'd just go on and win it? It all makes sense now
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:20
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Does anyone remember Carol sitting up in the garden telling Ola she felt sorry for Martin and said something like I sometimes wish he'd just go on and win it? It all makes sense now
I remember that - it was like she was bloody annoyed at Larry, Wayne, Joel, et al.
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:26
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Last year I actually gained a lot of my cynicism and begrudging respect for the evil in the editing of this show when Spencer Matthews left the jungle in circumstances which I still don't quite believe the "official" version of

.He was literally completely edited out of half a day's content. Not quiet, not saying one or two things, not sitting in the corner in a long shot of the camp. But quite honestly, not in a single shot.

Never underestimate the power of the edit. It was literally like something out of Orwell's 1984. He had been made an unperson, and erased from existence, with nothing more than a three second "he has left the camp that's all we can disclose at this point" brush away from A&D.

They can do anything in an episode.
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:26
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The most interesting thing that Carol said before they muzzled her with a different line of questioning, is the hint that there was stuff that wasn't picked up by the cameras. Specifically regarding Martin being picked on.

She's obviously been told about the highlights and has had a whole day now to be made aware of how things were coming across on TV.

It makes you wonder what was left on the cutting room floor after anti-bullying charities got in contact with the show. Martin could, and probably HAS, had a far rougher ride than what we as the viewing public have seen.
Spot on. Hope Martin goes on to win it.
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Old 01-12-2016, 23:27
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I remember that - it was like she was bloody annoyed at Larry, Wayne, Joel, et al.
Yes, I would say given her age and experience, she observed and waited. I can't believe how one man can be on the receiving end of spiteful, nasty oppressive behaviour when he's standing not far from them while they pick on him. what's sad is that he may not be aware its going on.
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