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Old 05-12-2016, 17:50
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My next door neighbour got one and the hand one, picks up ok, but container that holds the dust is not very good and seems to fill pretty quick.
How dusty/dirty is their house? These little machines are very very easy to empty and a bargain at Argos just now.

Back to coffee, who would want to drink coffee thats been kept warm for hours? Awful stewed stuff
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:16
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Whilst we have some room to manoeuvre on VAT levels; under EU regs we do not have any freedom to zero items ~ cast your mind back to the 'Tampon Tax'
Yes, but that wasn't my point.
There is masses of detail on VAT
here is the tip of the iceberg
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...at-guide#index

Personal taxation would be another exaaple of detailed government rules, pensions is another.
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Old 06-12-2016, 18:28
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Once we are out of the EU, we can reclaim our flag rules !!
No more persecution of pensioners for santa flags !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-38219812
" Broxtowe Borough Council said her flags were not on an approved list, but admitted the rules sounded "barmy". "

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...lags_guide.pdf
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Old 06-12-2016, 20:42
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How dusty/dirty is their house? These little machines are very very easy to empty and a bargain at Argos just now.
Their house is very clean, She vacuums every day with the AirRam and uses her Dyson once a week. they have changed the dirt collection box int he new model, so they must have a found a problem with the old one. £200 at Argos, so not really a bargain.

Back to coffee, who would want to drink coffee thats been kept warm for hours? Awful stewed stuff
I agree, I do not have filter coffee anyway, I used to years ago, I had one that had a timer on it, so it would make a coffee when i wake up, but it went pop.

Thinking of getting a new grinder, but the one i am looking at is a bit pricey at £200, my dualit is getting on and getting a bit noisy and I have noticed the coffee do not seem to be as consistent as it used to be and I find resultsa are different now than they used to be.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:53
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It amuses me how people think that, once we're out of the EU, the government are suddenly going to repeal all of the "stupid laws" that the EU have made. They'll adopt all of them and then, gradually, probably when they get around to it, go through each of them and make a decision about whether to scrap it completely, replace it, amend it, or keep it as it is. As the UK is obliged to contribute to overall global energy efficiency, more than likely the government will keep any law that shows that they are doing this. And we also contributed to those laws being made in the first place anyway, being one of the members of the EU. So, lower-powered hoovers, coffee warmers that auto switch off, will still exist. Maybe higher-powered hoovers may be available, but probably at a premium. A premium that goes to the tax man perhaps? Similar to how car tax is based on carbon emissions or something.

And, while people currently blame the EU for interfering with stuff and bringing in laws that they perceive as meddling and stupid without researching the reasoning behind the decision, the UK government manages this itself too. The forthcoming sugar tax, to me, is one example. As is the intention in Scotland to have a minimum charge on alcohol. All to protect people who can't look after themselves. When we're out of the EU, this will continue.

Finally, as has been pointed out, after Brexit, EU countries are still likely to be our biggest trading partners, what with them being geographically next door. Basic logistics, isn't it? So, everything we manufacture and export will have to be made to EU standards. And everything we import from the EU will be made to EU standards. So, what will change? We already purchase stuff from non-EU countries, but these products have to be made to EU standards. Will these non-EU countries suddenly start shipping products from the other side of the planet to be sold in European countries with slightly different settings if the UK standard is different to the EU standard? More than likely, they'll ensure that their products meet both EU and the new UK standards. It'll still feature the same EU-dictated limitations, plus any limitations we also decide to place on them too.

I think the EU is far from perfect, and I'm sure that many people who voted to remain agree with this. As an example, the EU law to have an annoying cookies warning on just about every website has the opposite effect to its intention (it just causes people to press whatever button closes it down, without really checking what they've just agreed to) and demonstrates that they're perhaps out of touch with web technology. But I really don't think that much will change when it comes to lawmaking when we leave. It'll just be a different bunch of out of touch ministers making decisions.

Oh, there was a mention of "unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats" somewhere in this thread. That's one off my list for Brexit Bingo for today! Just need "got our country back" and "remoaners" and I have a full house.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:59
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Anyway I assume the option of cutting and resuming always exists. There's surely not many cases where a single shot of longer than half an hour is required, or even desirable.
Alfred Hitchcock's Rope has the reputation of being made in a single take. It wasn't, although he did work very hard to create that illusion, using takes that were considerably longer than was customary and disguising the joins.

Perhaps the first lesson for the amateur videographer should be titled "You Ain't No Hitchcock".

(I can still remember when cameras were limited to a maximum of 36 still pictures continuous shooting (unless you paid fo a very expensive accessory), and had no video capabikity at all!
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:09
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It amuses me how people think that, once we're out of the EU, the government are suddenly going to repeal all of the "stupid laws" that the EU have made. They'll adopt all of them and then, gradually, probably when they get around to it, go through each of them and make a decision about whether to scrap it completely, replace it, amend it, or keep it as it is. As the UK is obliged to contribute to overall global energy efficiency, more than likely the government will keep any law that shows that they are doing this. And we also contributed to those laws being made in the first place anyway, being one of the members of the EU. So, lower-powered hoovers, coffee warmers that auto switch off, will still exist. Maybe higher-powered hoovers may be available, but probably at a premium. A premium that goes to the tax man perhaps? Similar to how car tax is based on carbon emissions or something.

And, while people currently blame the EU for interfering with stuff and bringing in laws that they perceive as meddling and stupid without researching the reasoning behind the decision, the UK government manages this itself too. The forthcoming sugar tax, to me, is one example. As is the intention in Scotland to have a minimum charge on alcohol. All to protect people who can't look after themselves. When we're out of the EU, this will continue.

Finally, as has been pointed out, after Brexit, EU countries are still likely to be our biggest trading partners, what with them being geographically next door. Basic logistics, isn't it? So, everything we manufacture and export will have to be made to EU standards. And everything we import from the EU will be made to EU standards. So, what will change? We already purchase stuff from non-EU countries, but these products have to be made to EU standards. Will these non-EU countries suddenly start shipping products from the other side of the planet to be sold in European countries with slightly different settings if the UK standard is different to the EU standard? More than likely, they'll ensure that their products meet both EU and the new UK standards. It'll still feature the same EU-dictated limitations, plus any limitations we also decide to place on them too.

I think the EU is far from perfect, and I'm sure that many people who voted to remain agree with this. As an example, the EU law to have an annoying cookies warning on just about every website has the opposite effect to its intention (it just causes people to press whatever button closes it down, without really checking what they've just agreed to) and demonstrates that they're perhaps out of touch with web technology. But I really don't think that much will change when it comes to lawmaking when we leave. It'll just be a different bunch of out of touch ministers making decisions.

Oh, there was a mention of "unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats" somewhere in this thread. That's one off my list for Brexit Bingo for today! Just need "got our country back" and "remoaners" and I have a full house.
'The more things change, the more they stay the same', but at least after Brexit we'll be able to make our own crap laws, rather than the EU on our behalf.
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:24
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'The more things change, the more they stay the same', but at least after Brexit we'll be able to make our own crap laws, rather than the EU on our behalf.
Or more accurately, our laws will be made by one group of people with very little input from you or me, rather than a different group of people with very little input from you or me.

Making our own laws! If only.
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:34
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Or more accurately, our laws will be made by one group of people with very little input from you or me, rather than a different group of people with very little input from you or me.

Making our own laws! If only.
We, as in our own government, not people like me and you. LMAO.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:33
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(I can still remember when cameras were limited to a maximum of 36 still pictures continuous shooting (unless you paid fo a very expensive accessory), and had no video capabikity at all!
Me too. Good old Kodachrome 64 was my choice. And I remember on family holidays (never carried a camera around any other time) rationing myself to three or four shots a day. And the joy of discovering one extra shot at the end of a film occasionally.

But I rarely hold with 'the past was better crap'. These days I go everywhere with a very capable camera in my pocket. I can take as many pictures as I want. I can edit them as I want. And yes I can take video if I want (albeit limited to 29 minutes, 59 seconds).

Progress is great
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:34
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We, as in our own government, not people like me and you. LMAO.
Great. No doubt it will be a new enlightened government with respect for its citizens that likes to listen to them and keep them informed. Amazing what Brexit will achieve.

Power to the people!(*)

But hey at least Theresa is saying that she will now tell us what her plans are for our future. How nice. Let's all send her a thank you card. I'm sooo glad we'll soon be out from under the shackles of politicians that hide things from us and pass laws we don't want.

(*)Ooh, Woolfie!
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