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Old 02-12-2016, 16:46
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They don't idle away though do they, thermostats turn them off and on.
So idling away then?
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Old 02-12-2016, 16:47
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The best way would be to brew a single cup full at a time then switch it all off again. Bit of a faff and would use a lot of filter papers.
A cafetiere is ideal for that purpose.
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Old 02-12-2016, 16:54
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So THIS is what Brexit was all about, then. This is what makes it worthwhile. Hooray for taking back control!
Actually too some, I know someone who voted to leave, purely because of the limit on vacuum cleaners.
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Old 02-12-2016, 16:56
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We are not going to do a Norway though. That was not what people voted for and was never an option on the ballot paper.
People voted to leave or remain...no deals on what leave would mean, that is what you voted for...anything else you might think it meant is entirely in your head.
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Old 02-12-2016, 17:21
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They don't idle away though do they, thermostats turn them off and on.
Okay so they don't idle away. Then they do idle away. Then they don't idle away. Then they do idle away.
I think its thanks to EU rulings that all Euro zone mobile phones pause as you increase the volume control and preach to you " loud volume can cause hearing loss" , or some such.
It's also thanks to the EU that phone roaming charges have been capped.
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Old 02-12-2016, 17:58
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It is a criminal offence to import non-CE Marked and Certified Electrical Equipment.

It won't change after we leave the EU (nor should it). Most of the Rules and Regs are soundly based.
We may put some wording in for Kitemarks again.
CE = Chinese Engineering !
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Old 02-12-2016, 18:30
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If you want to import and sell goods within the eu then the goods need to meet the standards set.
That wasn't the point.
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Old 02-12-2016, 18:34
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Yes, the CE marking is mandatory for products SOLD in the EU. It is not related to where the manufacturing location is as the importer who brings the goods it into the EU is considered the manufacturer if the factory itself not in the EU.

So in theory, yes, we could start to import the cheap death traps that the Chinese make for their own domestic and/or fakes markets instead of the safe stuff that meets the EU CE marks.
Why cheap Chinese, do other non EU countries not manufacture them and what about a German vac company like Siemens, do they not make an export model for say the US where the rulings don't apply are are not wanted such as vac power?
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Old 02-12-2016, 18:52
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Why cheap Chinese, do other non EU countries not manufacture them and what about a German vac company like Siemens, do they not make an export model for say the US where the rulings don't apply are are not wanted such as vac power?
Do you really imagine that any government in this country is suddenly going to kick all energy & environmental policies into touch, thereby creating a market for inefficient vacuum cleaners, just because some people want a vacuum which also acts as temporary electric room heater, or because they can't leave their coffee machine on all day?

We're committed to more efficient energy usage, and not just because of the EU.
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Old 02-12-2016, 18:52
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The eco mode will be the default mode of the coffee machine but manufacturers are free to create a non time-limited option alongside the eco mode – thereby leaving choice open to the consumer.
If - as it sounds like - manufacturers are just shipping the things with eco-only and no 'unlimited' option then maybe there's a business opportunity for someone to make or adapt these machines with a Hot Coffee Mod.
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Old 02-12-2016, 20:21
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Was there an answer to other stupid rules?
Although the original claim has been debunked.

As someone who has been on an electrical testing course, I can say:
No I don't want to be electricuted due to some shit design or non working fuse from some lethal import. Neither do I want to use a sandwich toaster that is live due to poor construction.
Yes, I want high standards.
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Old 02-12-2016, 20:40
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There are no stupid EU rules on electrical appliances, just stupid people who can't understand them, or refuse to make the effort to think for themselves. Too many people just suck up whatever lies or propaganda the Sun/Mail/Express vomit out.
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Old 02-12-2016, 20:55
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TBH, I would not want coffee that have been left on a hotplate for that amount of time, I have an espresso machine, so it do not keep coffee hot, but it is a bit heavy on the electric, over 1000 watts.

My Tv uses enough to make the E.U energy department have kittens. Fed up of all this energy efficient crap to be honest, i can understand it on some things, but i have heard they even want to take the power usage down of toasters and kettles, stupid idea, toasters will take longer to toast and kettles will take longer to boil.

My one hate is banning the sale of normal bulbs, up to us what we use, no low energy bulb or lighting is as good as the good old fashion bulb, just glad I have plenty to last.
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Old 02-12-2016, 21:27
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TBH, I would not want coffee that have been left on a hotplate for that amount of time, I have an espresso machine, so it do not keep coffee hot, but it is a bit heavy on the electric, over 1000 watts.

My Tv uses enough to make the E.U energy department have kittens. Fed up of all this energy efficient crap to be honest, i can understand it on some things, but i have heard they even want to take the power usage down of toasters and kettles, stupid idea, toasters will take longer to toast and kettles will take longer to boil.

My one hate is banning the sale of normal bulbs, up to us what we use, no low energy bulb or lighting is as good as the good old fashion bulb, just glad I have plenty to last.
No. They're not.
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Old 02-12-2016, 21:28
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My biggest hate is that the Rules and Regs aren't enforced.

Trading Standards, Police, CPS and the HSE don't have the staff, or sometimes the inclination, to take action.

Hoverboards and Mobile Phones catch fire and some preventatitive measures and action has been taken, but by the distributors and manufacturers voluntarily withdrawing them.

Some manufacturers don't seem to care or fear prosecution

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=BE...utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Old 03-12-2016, 00:02
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Which could be of indirect interest to those people still asleep when some households take out their waste or put out their bins.
The lids aren't designed to be quiet it's just that the regulations for gardening equipment inadvertently covers bins and not just things with motors so the noise they make has to be marked on them.
Can't see what good it does to people asleep.
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Old 03-12-2016, 00:53
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If you have an urge to drink stewed coffee then use the 'drip coffee' method of stewing then put the ruined coffee in a Thermos flask....the poor drink will stay hot for hours.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:04
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TBH, I would not want coffee that have been left on a hotplate for that amount of time, I have an espresso machine, so it do not keep coffee hot, but it is a bit heavy on the electric, over 1000 watts.

My Tv uses enough to make the E.U energy department have kittens. Fed up of all this energy efficient crap to be honest, i can understand it on some things, but i have heard they even want to take the power usage down of toasters and kettles, stupid idea, toasters will take longer to toast and kettles will take longer to boil.

My one hate is banning the sale of normal bulbs, up to us what we use, no low energy bulb or lighting is as good as the good old fashion bulb, just glad I have plenty to last.
One hate LOL, you seem to hate everything Noise LOL
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:07
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There were no options on the ballot paper apart from remain or leave. So nobody really had a clue exactly what they were voting for.
Speak for yourself. I voted leave and I knew why we should.

Get rid of the CAP (farming subsidies and quotas).
Get rid of the CFP (fishing quotas and limits).
Get rid of the MEP gravy train.
We didn't sign the Schengen Agreement, so no point in being in the EU.
Keep the £.
Remove the UK net subsidy to the EU.
Make all our own laws, not be dictated by the EU.

Brexit was about taking back control of our country (the UK) and not be part of the United States of Europe.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:52
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It turns out the EU regulations enforce that all these machines must cut out dead on 40 minutes, so I can't find one that would keep the little hotplate on for longer (the one that only keeps the cofffee warm).
Hi,

The EU regs only apply to domestic coffee makers, commercial ones are exempt. It'll cost you more than a domestic one though. I only had a quick look but this Buffalo G108 seems OK. Note price with VAT is £106.80: http://www.nisbets.co.uk/buffalo-com...Detail.raction. Here's a page full of them with 2 cheaper Severin Coffee Makers: https://www.caterkwik.co.uk/shop/com...ffee-machines/.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:58
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filter coffee is manky if it`s left on a hotplate, you might be as well to get an insulated press.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:59
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We chose Brexit because of anger over coffee-makers?
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:44
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Speak for yourself. I voted leave and I knew why we should.

Get rid of the CAP (farming subsidies and quotas).
Get rid of the CFP (fishing quotas and limits).
Get rid of the MEP gravy train.
We didn't sign the Schengen Agreement, so no point in being in the EU.
Keep the £.
Remove the UK net subsidy to the EU.
Make all our own laws, not be dictated by the EU.

Brexit was about taking back control of our country (the UK) and not be part of the United States of Europe.
You knew why you voted....you just don't know what you will get. The only thing certainly guaranteed on your list is keeping the £.

Nothing was promised to you, so you can't moan if what you wanted doesn't happen, other than leaving the EU.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:22
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I know someone who voted leave because she 'wants her light bulbs back'.
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:09
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Just because Supermarkets and DIY chains no longer stock old-style incandescent bulbs doesn't mean they are still not legally available.

Just visit a Poundshop or Google
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