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Old 04-12-2016, 10:15
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Perhaps Wayne's kids were sick. You're awfully judgemental of Wayne's parenting without knowing anything about him and him as a parent.
Christ its getting worse, if they were sick why would any mother leave them, I dont think that was one of your better ideas
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:18
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Christ its getting worse, if they were sick why would any mother leave them, I dont think that was one of your better ideas
You're just awfully judgemental of people's parenting who you don't know, and have no clue about their parenting. It was idiotic to try to call Wayne a bad parent just because his kids didn't fly out to meet him.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:23
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You're just awfully judgemental of people's parenting who you don't know, and have no clue about their parenting. It was idiotic to try to call Wayne a bad parent just because his kids didn't fly out to meet him.
No but I though he was desperate to see them, I think Ill put my fairy lights up outside
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:24
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Hes been away three weeks though, but each to their own. Martins kids were taken over there regardless, older yes but they made the effort and says volumes of the man as a father.
How old are martins kids?
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:27
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How old are martins kids?
Does it make a difference.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:27
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You're just awfully judgemental of people's parenting who you don't know, and have no clue about their parenting. It was idiotic to try to call Wayne a bad parent just because his kids didn't fly out to meet him.
His kids with Frankie are 2 and a few months and she made the decision not to drag them halfway around the world but to leave them with her parents instead. I don't see a problem with that personally. His older son lived with his ex and if would be her call to whether to take him out of school and allow him to fly to Oz without her.

But obviously the above sensible decisions are enough to prove what a terrible father Wayne must be - desperate isn't it?
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:29
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Does it make a difference.
Of course it does. Are they of an age where they make their own decisions or not?
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:29
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No but I though he was desperate to see them, I think Ill put my fairy lights up outside
Talking of fairies, I think a few posters on here have fairies living at the bottom of their gardens
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:38
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Talking of fairies, I think a few posters on here have fairies living at the bottom of their gardens
got all my lights fankled, story of my life, always in a fankle , and just reading about the bully and the bullied have a look


A target of adult bullying is most often chosen because of their strength, not their weakness. Research shows that targets of bullying tend to have highly developed empathy for, and sensitivity of others, a high degree of perceptiveness, high moral values, a well-developed integrity, a strong sense of fair play and reasonableness, a low propensity to violence, a reluctance to pursue grievance, disciplinary or legal action, a strong forgiving streak and a mature understanding of the need to resolve conflict with dialogue. Often, targets of bullying are independent, self-reliant and “different” in some way. Weak people often disingenuously confuse these hallmarks of character with weakness.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:45
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Staggeringly arrogant self delusion, 10/10 for that one.

His interview was cringeworthy and slanderous, but I expected nothing less. He hasn't the awareness or ability to either think before he speaks or as he showed in camp, time when he speaks. He's in there like a bull in a china shop.
What will he fantasise about in tonight's interview? Without doubt it will be something predictable.
I've worked as a therapist for decades and I've met few adults who fail to relate to others at Martin's extreme level.
Remember when he invented the gloating stuff to get attention and cause trouble ? He even invented Danny's hand gestures?


Yes he shared his food once and the rest and mostly since he knew he was in the bottom two. There were a few overnight personality changes in that time, but of course he's being himself.
Come on!
I doubt if he has the first idea of who himself is and sadly three weeks on a reality show won't achieve that for him.
Firstly I very much doubt you have been a therapist by your attitude and the fact that you would be a bit more insightful if you had. I wouldn't have wanted to use your services with an attitude like that. Secondly he didn't "invent" the gloating stuff. Danny was gloating with a capital G and you would have to be blind not to see that. It's not about liking or not liking Martin. It's about being venomous about a persons character and then claiming to know this as fact because you have been "a therapist" I see Martin as mildly annoying but harmless and a much nicer person than Larry, odious Danny and sheep Wayne.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:51
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How old are martins kids?
IMO they are under 12 as they were shown on the ITV2 show last nigh.t
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:55
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IMO they are under 12 as they were shown on the ITV2 show last nigh.t
Ok thank you for answering the question. So they had been taken out of school to fly out there? Nothing wrong with that if it's the parents choice but also nothing wrong with not flying children halfway across the world either.
Neither decision 'proves' that one parent is better than the other as parents make choices regarding their children based on what they think is best for them.
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:08
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His kids with Frankie are 2 and a few months and she made the decision not to drag them halfway around the world but to leave them with her parents instead. I don't see a problem with that personally. His older son lived with his ex and if would be her call to whether to take him out of school and allow him to fly to Oz without her.

But obviously the above sensible decisions are enough to prove what a terrible father Wayne must be - desperate isn't it?
Exactly. Trying to say that Wayne doesn't miss his children, or isn't a good parent, because his kids weren't flown up to meet him, it's just ridiculous.
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:11
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We're surely not judging Wayne as a parent based on the fact his kids didn't fly out to Oz to meet him. I get people don't like him but to use that to attack him is utterly ridiculous.

As for him going out with his mates, so what? Him & Frankie aren't joined at the hip, couples are allowed to do things separately. I know my husband goes out with his mates as I do mine & I don't ever recall anyone questioning it.
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:17
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We're surely not judging Wayne as a parent based on the fact his kids didn't fly out to Oz to meet him. I get people don't like him but to use that to attack him is utterly ridiculous.

As for him going out with his mates, so what? Him & Frankie aren't joined at the hip, couples are allowed to do things separately. I know my husband goes out with his mates as I do mine & I don't ever recall anyone questioning it.
It's grasping at straws.
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:31
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I was a nursery assistant for pre fives for almost twenty years and saw even young four and five year olds being bullies, they would take other children away from playing saying things like he smells or dont play with him hes bad, is it in the home this all starts, the way children are treated by parents or siblings, but it does start early, I had a cousin who was a bully at school, always picking on slightly younger children but she had such an unhappy childhood with her abusive father that she could easily be forgiven although I had to tick her off numerous times for her bullying.
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:00
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His kids with Frankie are 2 and a few months and she made the decision not to drag them halfway around the world but to leave them with her parents instead. I don't see a problem with that personally. His older son lived with his ex and if would be her call to whether to take him out of school and allow him to fly to Oz without her.
They are 3 year old and 15 months. I must say I wouldn't relish the prospect of travelling halfway around the world with two kids of that age personally. Leaving them at home with the grandparents seems like by far the better option to me.

Whether the older boy travelled over there would depend on his mother and to a certain extent the school so I don't really think that Wayne would have much input there.
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:04
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They are 3 year old and 15 months. I must say I wouldn't relish the prospect of travelling halfway around the world with two kids of that age personally. Leaving them at home with the grandparents seems like by far the better option to me.

Whether the older boy travelled over there would depend on his mother and to a certain extent the school so I don't really think that Wayne would have much input there.
Thanks. I knew they were pre school but was a bit out on their ages
I completely agree and think it's ridiculous to be used to judge Wayne as a bad father
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:07
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I honestly am gobsmacked by some of the posts here.
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:19
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I honestly am gobsmacked by some of the posts here.
You beat me to it I was trying to find the words and there are none for some of these posts
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:26
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You beat me to it I was trying to find the words and there are none for some of these posts
This one, if anything, is even worse.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2190590
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:34
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There is 8 pages of itI got to page 1 and that was a struggle
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:38
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Why the need to post other threads on this one? If you both don't like what you read, don't read them. Simple
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:45
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Why the need to post other threads on this one? If you both don't like what you read, don't read them. Simple
How can you know you don't like it, if you don't read it?
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:48
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Why the need to post other threads on this one? If you both don't like what you read, don't read them. Simple
I did not read them if you mean me I got to page 1 of 8
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