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Old 04-12-2016, 12:56
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The ones who dont see any wrong in Larry and the others bullying must have done it themselves at some time , to think it was ok.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:03
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The ones who dont see any wrong in Larry and the others bullying must have done it themselves at some time , to think it was ok.
1 It wasn't bullying.
2 Yes Larry didn't like him and was a tad rude
3 Some of us can keep things in perspective

An annoying man annoyed a couple of campers, the rest were fine with him. That is far from being the hell he's now claiming it to be.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:12
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1 It wasn't bullying.
2 Yes Larry didn't like him and was a tad rude
3 Some of us can keep things in perspective

An annoying man annoyed a couple of campers, the rest were fine with him. That is far from being the hell he's now claiming it to be.
No sorry, he Larry tried to get others to see his way by whispering in camp about Martin, he refused to get into the trial with Martin when he sat grumpy in the boat letting Martin prowl about in the water,then when the task was finished Martin offered him a High Five which Larry ignored completely, Larry felt his power slide from his side kick Danny being sent packing, he wasnt pleased and shocked about that as he had someone who was playing the game with him, the others were only puppets who followed to stay in the gang, the girls were the only decent ones in there this year.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:19
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The ones who dont see any wrong in Larry and the others bullying must have done it themselves at some time , to think it was ok.
Again these blanket statements and drawing conclusions without nothing to back them up.

I saw a lot wrong in how Larry acted. I saw a lot wrong in how many other camp mates acted, including Martin, Wayne, Adam, Danny etc. But to just blankly call them vile, and suggest they're bad parents etc is just not right either.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:22
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No sorry, he Larry tried to get others to see his way by whispering in camp about Martin, he refused to get into the trial with Martin when he sat grumpy in the boat letting Martin prowl about in the water,then when the task was finished Martin offered him a High Five which Larry ignored completely, Larry felt his power slide from his side kick Danny being sent packing, he wasnt pleased and shocked about that as he had someone who was playing the game with him, the others were only puppets who followed to stay in the gang, the girls were the only decent ones in there this year.
He bitched to Wayne and Adam. That doesn't mean they have to agree with him. They have got minds of their own.
He was as happy as Larry sitting in the boat fishing while Martin prattled on at the board.
So he didn't high five...big deal. I've never high fived anyone in my life. It's a young person's thing.
I don't go in for mind reading.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:27
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The ones who dont see any wrong in Larry and the others bullying must have done it themselves at some time , to think it was ok.
So it is ok for you to call FMs ( who you know nothing about) bullies and also criticise Wayne's parenting skills (again, a situation you know nothing about), but not ok for camp-mates (who lived with Martin) to call him out on his actions.

Some strange logic going on here.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:02
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Really? You don't seem compassionate enough for such a caring profession.
I hope you're less scathing towards your clients than you are about Martin.
I'm terribly sorry but if you have worked as a therapist for decades you don't come across as someone who knows what delusion means for a start. Your attitude in your posts is absolutely poisonous and utterly unsympathetic. You are obviously not a registered therapist in any way shape or form and for you to claim to be with your horrendous attitude and total musunderstanding with regards to anything to do with mental health, psychology, psychiatry and behaviour, well, it does a massive disservice to any half decent therapist. Which you plainly are not.
LOL yeah right
what agency and are you covered under the BACP?
There are some rubbish therapists out there, sadly. I had the misfortune to meet one about twenty years ago when I was in shock after losing a young family member. Utterly useless.
Firstly I very much doubt you have been a therapist by your attitude and the fact that you would be a bit more insightful if you had. I wouldn't have wanted to use your services with an attitude like that. Secondly he didn't "invent" the gloating stuff. Danny was gloating with a capital G and you would have to be blind not to see that. It's not about liking or not liking Martin. It's about being venomous about a persons character and then claiming to know this as fact because you have been "a therapist" I see Martin as mildly annoying but harmless and a much nicer person than Larry, odious Danny and sheep Wayne.
Thank you all for your attempted insights into a fellow FM and of course, littered with personal attacks. I wouldn't expect anything else

If it makes you feel better to insult me, please carry on.
Maybe someone needs to start a thread on anne_666

As for the delighfully sociopathic St. Martin, I still disagree.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:04
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The ones who dont see any wrong in Larry and the others bullying must have done it themselves at some time , to think it was ok.
This is getting bizarre! Firstly, there's no denying that Larry wasn't keen on Martin & yes he was a bit short tempered with him but he certainly didn't bully Martin.

As for saying those who condoned Larry must have been a bully at some point in their lives, what a ridiculous thing to say.

I don't think anyone has said Larry behaved impeccably however, that doesn't mean he is a bully.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:06
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Thank you all for your attempted insights into a fellow FM and of course, littered with personal attacks. I wouldn't expect anything else

If it makes you feel better to insult me, please carry on.
Maybe someone needs to start a thread on anne_666

As for the delighfully sociopathic St. Martin, I still disagree.
Sociopathic - good description for someone who appears to have no human compassion.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:08
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This is getting bizarre! Firstly, there's no denying that Larry wasn't keen on Martin & yes he was a bit short tempered with him but he certainly didn't bully Martin.

As for saying those who condoned Larry must have been a bully at some point in their lives, what a ridiculous thing to say.

I don't think anyone has said Larry behaved impeccably however, that doesn't mean he is a bully.
He certainly did bully him. Textbook case of bullying, in fact.

Sadly, some people don't really understand what bullying is. More education needed on this topic, evidently.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:10
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The ones who dont see any wrong in Larry and the others bullying must have done it themselves at some time , to think it was ok.
Come on! Sorry to read this calamity, it's way below the tassels
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:36
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I don't think Wayne is vile but I do think he is weak.

He hero worshipped Larry fair enough but he did not have to jump on the "let's bitch about Martin" bandwagon he chose to do that himself. Years of following the footballers in similar behaviours I suspect. No real backbone there but no real badness either. Just weak.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:38
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Sociopathic - good description for someone who appears to have no human compassion.
Feel better? So pleased to be able to help. Human compassion in action
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:43
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Thank you all for your attempted insights into a fellow FM and of course, littered with personal attacks. I wouldn't expect anything else

If it makes you feel better to insult me, please carry on.
Maybe someone needs to start a thread on anne_666

As for the delighfully sociopathic St. Martin, I still disagree.
You have stated that you are a therapist yet your posts are shocking in their berating and judgemental tone. If you were identified to your accrediting body (if you had one) then I suspect you would be disbarred. For your own sake some self reflection is warranted and/or bring this behaviour and the response you have received to your supervision (if you go at all).
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:50
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Feel better? So pleased to be able to help. Human compassion in action
You have such a lovely grin.
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Old 04-12-2016, 14:52
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his tattoos are vile, looks like he is wearing half a bra
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:12
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I don't think Wayne is vile but I do think he is weak.

He hero worshipped Larry fair enough but he did not have to jump on the "let's bitch about Martin" bandwagon he chose to do that himself. Years of following the footballers in similar behaviours I suspect. No real backbone there but no real badness either. Just weak.
Why do you assume he jumped on a band-wagon? Why can't he just not have liked Martin?
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:12
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his tattoos are vile, looks like he is wearing half a bra
His tattoos are pretty shocking. They do make him look a bit grubby and a complete contrast to his pop princess mrs
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:13
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Why do you assume he jumped on a band-wagon? Why can't he just not have liked Martin?
Because he liked him in the beginning.
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:16
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Because he liked him in the beginning.
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No, I don't recall ever putting my arms around a crying person if I didn't like them...well not in a social setting anyway
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Old 04-12-2016, 16:31
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You have stated that you are a therapist yet your posts are shocking in their berating and judgemental tone. If you were identified to your accrediting body (if you had one) then I suspect you would be disbarred. For your own sake some self reflection is warranted and/or bring this behaviour and the response you have received to your supervision (if you go at all).
Being a therapist means that it's important that you are not manipulated by self-appointed victims or manipulators.
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Old 04-12-2016, 16:37
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Being a therapist means that it's important that you are not manipulated by self-appointed victims or manipulators.
More importantly it means identifying the reasons behind these behaviours and working with the person to change these patterns of behaviour whilst being compassionate.
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Old 04-12-2016, 17:08
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You have stated that you are a therapist yet your posts are shocking in their berating and judgemental tone. If you were identified to your accrediting body (if you had one) then I suspect you would be disbarred. For your own sake some self reflection is warranted and/or bring this behaviour and the response you have received to your supervision (if you go at all).
Just when I think I've seen every puerile personal insult imaginable..........

If you or anyone else wishes to carry on with your forum rule breaking will you please try starting a thread on me and stop derailing this or any other thread.
Good luck!

In the meantime I will post as I see fit and save my human compassion for helping real victims, not the conscienceless perpetrators who create them and are perfectly content to do so.
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Old 04-12-2016, 17:21
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More importantly it means identifying the reasons behind these behaviours and working with the person to change these patterns of behaviour whilst being compassionate.
Unfortunately self-appointed victims do not want to change and without the will to change you can't help them. It suits them to blame everyone else for their woes.
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Old 04-12-2016, 17:24
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I just think he was petty and childish, honestly complaining about martin sitting in a chair then putting a bloody blackboard with a drawing of larry on the chair to stop him sitting on it
bit like cutting off the nose to spite the face
that morning No one was able to sit on the chair because of that action

I did notice it hasnt been there since Wayne left so INM it was an action to make Martin still feel as though he still asnt good enough for them
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