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the British public need their heads read voting for martin |
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It was early morning and some of them were still asleep. I'm not sure what this thing is about Larry and having people hooked. He was well liked and got on well with them all, including Carol and apart from Martin. I'm not sure what you mean by Carol saw through him.
I agree. Which "Z" listers? An established professional actor and a retired top footballer? |
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Martin just gave a delightful, mature, generous assessment in his leaving interview. What a star.
Assuming that Larry saw him as a threat was risible arrogance. It would seem he hasn't learnt much. All sadly predictable, along with his professional victim, poor bullied me pitch as he goes back out into the world. |
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Publicly slandering and denigrating someone's character who wasn't there to defend themselves isn't delightful, mature or generous. It was nasty immature pettiness and shameful. I hope he can back up his claims if it backfires on him.
Assuming that Larry saw him as a threat was risible arrogance. It would seem he hasn't learnt much. All sadly predictable, along with his professional victim, poor bullied me pitch as he goes back out into the world. |
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Publicly slandering and denigrating someone's character who wasn't there to defend themselves isn't delightful, mature or generous. It was nasty immature pettiness and shameful. I hope he can back up his claims if it backfires on him.
Assuming that Larry saw him as a threat was risible arrogance. It would seem he hasn't learnt much. All sadly predictable, along with his professional victim, poor bullied me pitch as he goes back out into the world. |
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The evidence that he was bullied and ostracised is all there, captured on film. Only a fool would deny it happened.
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As is evidenced by the majority in this room seeing it for what it was. I can honestly say I can relate to Martin having been a victim, as have many others, to being excluded when I was younger. I wonder why his detractors are so keen to ignore the evidence? I think I can guess but I'd be accused of libel.
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Carol's description of Martin and Larry in the paper this morning
Martin - Kind, a dedicated father who looks for the good in people. I wish him the very best of everything in life. Larry - Archetypal grumpy old man and the king of the camp fire. I think we can take from that who Carol preferred. |
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Sadly, I think that often happens in "real life" too - people are not believed. There are different forms of bullying, but a lot of people think it just means physical abuse. Systematic exclusion is also a potent form of bullying, but unfortunately, it's not easily dealt with.
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For me, being deliberately excluded is immature and representative of not mentally progressing; it really is like being back in the school playground.
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It's all about lack of empathy or basic compassion. There's something missing in people who can do that to another human being.
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He deliberately chose to say that to Martin at that time. Why, all the other times, would he 'get it all off his chest' in front of the others? Yes I do think he had them hooked; I think hes deeply insecure and an emotional wreck underneath his stern exterior. He showed no emotion during his playback time in the interview. I don't like him because he's a cold fish. Now what part would he have played in the play last night? Where was he in the group hugging session in the bar the other night? He detested Martin from day one because Martin is absolutely right, he felt threatened because he could get Danny on side easily and no I don't think Carol was impressed either..she knew Larry was OTT. Her conversation with Ola in garden alluded to Martin being singled out, which no doubt is why she swayed towards him.
There isn't any reason at all why Larry would see someone like Martin as a threat?? That's just Martin's immature arrogance and fragile ego compensatory speak. Just as he irritated the others and obviously the public too, he irritated Larry and he wasn't prepared to have to tip toe around him or tolerate his full on behaviour 24/7 when he was driving him up the wall. Something a lot of older people, including myself, haven't the time or the patience to be bothered with when we've long stopped giving a fig about what anyone thinks about us. Carol didn't give any indication that she wasn't impressed by Larry and she's spoken highly of him since she left. She didn't give any indication of who she was referring to in the garden with Ola so I can't simply assume it was Larry. She didn't say or infer anything about Larry picking on him in her interviews. She said they rubbed each other up the wrong way, which of course the eternally martyred Martin could never admit to. ![]() I don't understand what you mean by what part would Larry have played in the play. Both him and Jordan were missing from the impressions game and the group hug because they'd left earlier than the others. Never mind Martin said he's now learnt a painful "life lesson" from Larry, that not everyone in the world is going to like him. ![]() Something else which he's very late in life to be learning, but that's our Martin. One thing's for sure, we will never agree
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Well the programme has certainly shown to me who I thought I would like and didn't - Larry and Adam.
I also didn't think I would like Carol but shes turned out to be a really nice person. I liked Martin and still do. Think his leaving speech was lovely. Didn't like Danny before and still don't. Lisa, Ola and Jordan came out of it very well. Wayne - two faced. |
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Carol's description of Martin and Larry in the paper this morning
Martin - Kind, a dedicated father who looks for the good in people. I wish him the very best of everything in life. Larry - Archetypal grumpy old man and the king of the camp fire. I think we can take from that who Carol preferred. Can we? Really? ![]() I'm sure she said more flattering things than that about Larry as she's already done, but it is the Sun. Give them their due, Larry was definitely King of the campfire and he knew how to manage it and he did occasionally have a touch of the glorious Victor Meldrew about him ![]() Poor Carol, I didn't know she'd been so ill. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...or-six-months/ |
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Can we? Really?
![]() I'm sure she said more flattering things than that about Larry as she's already done, but it is the Sun. Give them their due, Larry was definitely King of the campfire and he knew how to manage it and he did occasionally have a touch of the glorious Victor Meldrew about him ![]() Poor Carol, I didn't know she'd been so ill. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...or-six-months/ Sad about what she has been through. Hopefully she is better now and can move on from it. |
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Well the programme has certainly shown to me who I thought I would like and didn't - Larry and Adam.
I also didn't think I would like Carol but shes turned out to be a really nice person. I liked Martin and still do. Think his leaving speech was lovely. Didn't like Danny before and still don't. Lisa, Ola and Jordan came out of it very well. Wayne - two faced. |
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Very true.
Also, I think Adam plays up to the camera quite a lot. |
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Well the programme has certainly shown to me who I thought I would like and didn't - Larry and Adam.
I also didn't think I would like Carol but shes turned out to be a really nice person. I liked Martin and still do. Think his leaving speech was lovely. Didn't like Danny before and still don't. Lisa, Ola and Jordan came out of it very well. Wayne - two faced. |
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wasnt it just, he needs to get back to school.
I think he's too old to enrol now.
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Can we? Really?
![]() I'm sure she said more flattering things than that about Larry as she's already done, but it is the Sun. Give them their due, Larry was definitely King of the campfire and he knew how to manage it and he did occasionally have a touch of the glorious Victor Meldrew about him ![]() Poor Carol, I didn't know she'd been so ill. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...or-six-months/ If Victor Meldrew had been as unlikable as Larry, the show wouldn't have been the hit that it was.
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Can we? Really?
![]() Give them their due, Larry was definitely King of the campfire and he knew how to manage it and he did occasionally have a touch of the glorious Victor Meldrew about him ![]() https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...or-six-months/ |
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Well the programme has certainly shown to me who I thought I would like and didn't - Larry and Adam.
I also didn't think I would like Carol but shes turned out to be a really nice person. I liked Martin and still do. Think his leaving speech was lovely. Didn't like Danny before and still don't. Lisa, Ola and Jordan came out of it very well. Wayne - two faced.
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Martin shouldn't have lasted as long as he did who on earth was voting for the horrible bully to remain in?
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