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Old 03-12-2016, 01:33
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"President-elect Trump spoke with President Tsai Ing-wen of Taiwan, who offered her congratulations," according to a readout of the call released by Trump's transition team.

"During the discussion, they noted the close economic, political, and security ties" between Taiwan and the United States, the statement continued. "President-elect Trump also congratulated President Tsai on becoming President of Taiwan earlier this year."

The call, first reported by the Financial Times, is the first time a US president has directly spoken with Taiwan's leadership in more than 30 years. The White House was not made aware of the call until after it occurred, an administration official told Business Insider.

The US suspended formal diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1979 after establishing a One China position — which states that "there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China" — in an effort to establish diplomatic channels with Beijing.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...6-12?r=US&IR=T

Uh oh.

After of course phoning the Prime Minister of Pakistan yesterday, saying what a wonderful country it was and how he couldn't wait to visit the place (infuriating India), now has broken a longstanding US-China protocol in being the first president to speak to Taiwan in since 1979.

China are now pissed and wanting to set up a meeting with the Whitehouse immediately.

Well its going to be an interesting 4 years at least whatever it is.
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Old 03-12-2016, 02:21
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...omatic/898iukj

Seems as if the phrase bull in a China shop was made for him.
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:08
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...omatic/898iukj

Seems as if the phrase bull in a China shop was made for him.
your link seems to be broken buddy
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:12
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...6-12?r=US&IR=T

Uh oh.

After of course phoning the Prime Minister of Pakistan yesterday, saying what a wonderful country it was and how he couldn't wait to visit the place (infuriating India), now has broken a longstanding US-China protocol in being the first president to speak to Taiwan in since 1979.

China are now pissed and wanting to set up a meeting with the Whitehouse immediately.

Well its going to be an interesting 4 years at least whatever it is.
is this the same china that dramatically snubbed obama by any chance?

does it really matter, not really.
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:17
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For once im on Trumps side, i support Taiwan and think China are way too controlling on issues like this. If Trump intends to stand up to China over the way they bully Taiwan and Hong Kong into submission then i support him on this one issue.
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:18
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...6-12?r=US&IR=T

Uh oh.

After of course phoning the Prime Minister of Pakistan yesterday, saying what a wonderful country it was and how he couldn't wait to visit the place (infuriating India), now has broken a longstanding US-China protocol in being the first president to speak to Taiwan in since 1979.

China are now pissed and wanting to set up a meeting with the Whitehouse immediately.

Well its going to be an interesting 4 years at least whatever it is.
In the link it said 'that he would "love" to visit the country soon' so where did you get the BIB from?
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:28
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:34
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For once im on Trumps side, i support Taiwan and think China are way too controlling on issues like this. If Trump intends to stand up to China over the way they bully Taiwan and Hong Kong into submission then i support him on this one issue.
China doesn't take kindly to being told what to do. And the US no longer has the capability to win a conventional or nuclear confrontation with China.

The aim of US policy is to prevent an invasion of Taiwan by reducing tensions. - because that invasion would now end in success , and /or sinking US carriers.
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:35
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Looks like Ivanka is now the world's best hope ..........
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7451441.html

and another campaign pledge bites the dust.
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:46
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He thought he was ordering take away
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:29
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Just reading Wiki about Taiwan and China refuses to have diplomatic relations with any nation that recognizes Taiwan.

Something to do with a one China policy.

The Whitehouse have said they knew nothing about the call until China got in contact with them.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:43
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Less than 50 sleeps left that we can all have safe and sound in our beds then.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:50
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Just reading Wiki about Taiwan and China refuses to have diplomatic relations with any nation that recognizes Taiwan.

Something to do with a one China policy.

The Whitehouse have said they knew nothing about the call until China got in contact with them.
BiB - thats probably what Trump did to find out about the issues
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Old 03-12-2016, 05:59
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...6-12?r=US&IR=T

Uh oh.

After of course phoning the Prime Minister of Pakistan yesterday, saying what a wonderful country it was and how he couldn't wait to visit the place (infuriating India), now has broken a longstanding US-China protocol in being the first president to speak to Taiwan in since 1979.

China are now pissed and wanting to set up a meeting with the Whitehouse immediately.

Well its going to be an interesting 4 years at least whatever it is.

Oh, no! The fool is rushing in...again!
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:47
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Good on him. I hope he bloody well rings the deli llama also. About time we treated Taiwan with the respect it deserves.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:49
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Why the hell should China dictate to an American President (nearly) who he should talk to ? Getting too big for their boots I think.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:58
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For once im on Trumps side, i support Taiwan and think China are way too controlling on issues like this. If Trump intends to stand up to China over the way they bully Taiwan and Hong Kong into submission then i support him on this one issue.
I doubt Trump has any position on this "issue". He would have just taken the call without anything consideration of the diplomatic consequences. It just shows how inexperienced and he and the people around him are.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:00
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Why the hell should China dictate to an American President (nearly) who he should talk to ? Getting too big for their boots I think.
because its called diplomacy

china still considers taiwan to be part of china and that has been the official US policy for 40 years

taiwan has just elected a party that wants to push for full independent status, say they do actually push for that now because the US president has recognised them by default

china wont let that happen and take military action, do the US then have to intervene on taiwan's side ?
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:11
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Wonder how trump will feel being on the receiving end of a hissy fit
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:38
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The article says they talked, so what?
Mr Trump tweeted on Friday that Ms Tsai had called him to congratulate him on winning the US election.
They called him. What should he have done? Refused to take the call?
Following media reports pointing out the risks of angering China, Mr Trump tweeted: "Interesting how the US sells Taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but I should not accept a congratulatory call."
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:47
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Mr Tsai making mischief and taking advantage of trump's inexperience. Wonder how many other folk are already doing that but not as publicly
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:52
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Fück China. Hurrah for Taiwan (which, unlike communist China, is a democracy).
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:53
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Mr Tsai making mischief and taking advantage of trump's inexperience. Wonder how many other folk are already doing that but not as publicly
its like the call with the president of pakistan

he calls him a terrific guy and the country is full of tremendous people who do tremendous things

slight problem, his proposed ban on all muslims and for people from countries with links to terrorism it means that all these tremendous people he is going to ban from being able to travel to the US
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:57
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Mr Tsai making mischief and taking advantage of trump's inexperience. Wonder how many other folk are already doing that but not as publicly
I bet if someone rang up Trump's team claiming to be the President of Atlantis hen they'd let him take the call.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:58
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Trump did not do it on his own. The military and CIA must have told him to do it. America wanted to make a U-Turn in politics, and that's why Trump got elected. They needed someone new and fresh to take over, someone willing to execute orders without asking too many questions.
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