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Old 03-12-2016, 07:37
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/739...Lib-Dem-block-

"The Liberal Democrat leader was called out by a furious Neil over the suggestion he was clueless about the EU referendum."

"Cutting him off, Neil interjected: "You've mentioned him, stick with the issues. It's your position I'm here to interrogate, not Mr Phillips'."

However as Mr Farron once again deflected the issue and accused the host of making assumptions about voters' intentions, Neil thundered: "No, no I’m not and don’t misrepresent me!"
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:12
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Neil is acting like a lot of brexiteers angry and intolerant and lashing out at anyone who dares speak sense about our place in the EU. I find it delightful. Looking forward to Nigel "you're not laughing anymore" Farage exploding with rage soon.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:23
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Very much doubt that will happen.

I think the Lib Dems will find themselves out on a limb again very soon.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:26
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Very much doubt that will happen.

I think the Lib Dems will find themselves out on a limb again very soon.
The wind is with them. I thought Farron was taking spectacular risks in the aftermath of the referendum with his views and vowing to fight on. But it appears he's onto a winner and even I would vote for a lib dem if they stood against our brexiteer Tory MP on a remain in the EU message. I have voted conservative my entire life, but I would sacrifice that badge of honour in a heartbeat if it helps stop brexit.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:29
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Farron is an odious little pipsqueak.

There are little hotbeds of yellow support dotted around the country, though. Must be something in the water.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:29
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/739...Lib-Dem-block-

"The Liberal Democrat leader was called out by a furious Neil over the suggestion he was clueless about the EU referendum."

"Cutting him off, Neil interjected: "You've mentioned him, stick with the issues. It's your position I'm here to interrogate, not Mr Phillips'."

However as Mr Farron once again deflected the issue and accused the host of making assumptions about voters' intentions, Neil thundered: "No, no I’m not and don’t misrepresent me!"
Mischievous lucky. Saw this yesterday at the time, "have you asked all 17.5 million"... have you Tim?
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:31
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Farron is an odious little pipsqueak.

There are little hotbeds of yellow support dotted around the country, though. Must be something in the water.
That'll be the Russians...up to no good again.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:31
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The wind is with them. I thought Farron was taking spectacular risks in the aftermath of the referendum with his views and vowing to fight on. But it appears he's onto a winner and even I would vote for a lib dem if they stood against our brexiteer Tory MP on a remain in the EU message. I have voted conservative my entire life, but I would sacrifice that badge of honour in a heartbeat if it helps stop brexit.
Nothing will stop Brexit not even Tim Farron or the Lib Dems.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:37
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Nothing will stop Brexit not even Tim Farron or the Lib Dems.
We'll see. I've never been more optimistic than I am today about our chances. Richmond was a huge stunning upset and will have sent shockwaves through parliament.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:47
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We'll see. I've never been more optimistic than I am today about our chances. Richmond was a huge stunning upset and will have sent shockwaves through parliament.
Not because of the Lib Dem win, Zac was tool to get Susan Kramer out and quite frankly Sarah Olney will go the same way. Richmond Park swings between Tory and Liberal all the time.

It will be a talking point but mainly because Labour lost it's deposit and they don't seem to care.

So no shock waves in Parliament only in the Labour Party
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:47
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Every time I see or hear Farron he is angry and argumentative. Just because he didn't get the result in the referendum that he wanted, he keeps spitting his dummy out.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:00
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I vowed never to vote lib dem again after the tutition fees row. But if there was a by-election tomorrow i would break that vow to show my displeasure at brexit.

I would normally vote labour, but i live in a very safe tory seat which no one else has any chance of winning, but lib dems tend to come second. Maybe if enough tory voters swiched alligence as well...? Our MP is very vocally pro-brexit.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:11
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I vowed never to vote lib dem again after the tutition fees row. But if there was a by-election tomorrow i would break that vow to show my displeasure at brexit.

I would normally vote labour, but i live in a very safe tory seat which no one else has any chance of winning, but lib dems tend to come second. Maybe if enough tory voters swiched alligence as well...? Our MP is very vocally pro-brexit.
Exactly if enough of us switch our votes to the remain candidate we will kill brexit forever. The situation is very similar where I am - Tories usually win but the Libs always come second. I know a lot of Tory friends here who say they will back remain candidates to stop brexit.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:15
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Heartley-Brewer takes Olney to task in this interview and gets cut off by Olneys PR officer.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/739...Hartley-Brewer

It's funny when questioned democracy is a two way street and the liberals don't like it.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:17
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Exactly if enough of us switch our votes to the remain candidate we will kill brexit forever. The situation is very similar where I am - Tories usually win but the Libs always come second. I know a lot of Tory friends here who say they will back remain candidates to stop brexit.
BIB

You are living in dreamland.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:26
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Neil is acting like a lot of brexiteers angry and intolerant and lashing out at anyone who dares speak sense about our place in the EU. I find it delightful. Looking forward to Nigel "you're not laughing anymore" Farage exploding with rage soon.
Odd that, I would have said the same about Farron, angry little man that chugs out the same, inane crap no matter what the question is, I have a lot of time for Andrew Neil because he is about the only one who doesn't accept the question dodging and soap box drone from the likes of Farron.

I find him refreshing and impartial as an interviewer and one that looks to get an answer to the questions instead of the drivel, he will also point out the hypocrisy and outright inaccuracies and lies from those he is interviewing.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:38
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Heartley-Brewer takes Olney to task in this interview and gets cut off by Olneys PR officer.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/739...Hartley-Brewer

It's funny when questioned democracy is a two way street and the liberals don't like it.
Strange conclusion to draw from this admittedly unfortunate episode.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:45
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He hardly 'raged' at him. The Express making a mountain out of a molehill there. Farron was avoiding questions and Neil was forcing him to answer them.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:48
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Strange conclusion to draw from this admittedly unfortunate episode.
Nothing strange about it, liberals are proposing another referendum on the terms of the exit......if we don't like them w stay as we are.....which completely goes against the first referendum. Heartley-Brewer makes the point that Olney had less than 50% of the vote, Richmond Park should be allowed a second election to validate that result.

It's all or nothing with democracy you can't have anything in between.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:52
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I vowed never to vote lib dem again after the tutition fees row. But if there was a by-election tomorrow i would break that vow to show my displeasure at brexit.

I would normally vote labour, but i live in a very safe tory seat which no one else has any chance of winning, but lib dems tend to come second. Maybe if enough tory voters swiched alligence as well...? Our MP is very vocally pro-brexit.
Yeah, well if you and your ilk had looked at the big picture and voted tactically in favour of another coalition government instead of throwing your toys out of the pram and deciding to give the Lib Dems a kicking there wouldn't even have been a referendum.

You took the brakes off the Tories, this is YOUR ride we're all on. And it's too late to do anything about it now, A50 will have been triggered and we'll be out or on our way out of the EU before you can even think about voting your white knights back into Parliament.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:55
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If you think thats raging you should wait and see the daily politics when the people who don't want a referendum on terms realise the government just negotiated terms they didn't want and now they're stuck with a worse situation than they started with.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:58
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Nothing strange about it, liberals are proposing another referendum on the terms of the exit......if we don't like them w stay as we are.....which completely goes against the first referendum. Heartley-Brewer makes the point that Olney had less than 50% of the vote, Richmond Park should be allowed a second election to validate that result.

It's all or nothing with democracy you can't have anything in between.
I don't agree with the Lib Dems on having a referendum on the terms of the exit, but if it happened it would still be an exercise in democracy. And I think JHB was silly to compare a by-election vote with a national referendum. Completely different things.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:00
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Every time I see or hear Farron he is angry and argumentative. Just because he didn't get the result in the referendum that he wanted, he keeps spitting his dummy out.
He's turning the Lib Dems into a single issue anti Brexit party, hoping people will forget they jumped into bed with the Tories to implement austerity.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:01
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Heartley-Brewer takes Olney to task in this interview and gets cut off by Olneys PR officer.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/739...Hartley-Brewer

It's funny when questioned democracy is a two way street and the liberals don't like it.
Never saw Hartley-Brewer as a liberal myself...........
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:02
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I don't agree with the Lib Dems on having a referendum on the terms of the exit, but if it happened it would still be an exercise in democracy. And I think JHB was silly to compare a by-election vote with a national referendum. Completely different things.
They were both exercises in democracy albeit framed differently in the questions they asked and options offered. I like you do not agree with the liberals pursuing a second referendum nor even a second by election for Olney. However they can't pick and choose the type of democracy that suits them, if it's good for the goose....
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