Saara does look like Mary from Corrie.

Matt's obviously not short of money if that's his car. It looks nice from the inside. Him and Freddy could just be friends. Anyway, why upload an image of you and someone if you're trying to keep your romantic relationship with them a secret?

Agree. There is no real proof that he is gay apart from gossip which could be about anybody. This thread has strayed into territory that could cause legal trouble too as there are no real facts on here at all.

It'd only cause legal issues if it's defamatory, being gay alone doesn't cross that line.

Is he hiding it, or just not mentioned it? Funny how when someone is speculated to be gay, people accuse them of hiding their sexuality, but when someone is assumed to be straight there's no such accusations even when they haven't openly declared it. And first saying it shouldn't matter cannot really be followed by 'he should be open about it' as that suggests it DOES matter. If it really doesn't matter, then it doesn't matter whether he addresses the topic at all.

I doubt if too many are bothered either way tbh.

You are so funny, you are so clever and intellectually astute with your pithy little comments. They are so inventive and intelligent that I am completely baffled. Horrible, horrible person.

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Big ears = Kieran
High-rise haircut = Jordan

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Fwiw I do think both Freddy and Matt are gay. Before anyone comes at me, there's a long list of male contestants presented as straight when in actual fact they're gay/bi - Vince Kidd when he was in Futureproof, Austin Drage, Danyl Johnson, Lloyd Daniels, Craig Colton, Ashford from The Risk... If Matt is indeed gay, it's his choice whether to be discreet or open about it but the show should cut the ex-girlfriend/ladies' man angle since it's misleading.

Or the fujoshi vote.


Have people suggested the ex-girlfriend wasn't real? I thought the only accusation was that she wasn't really ex at the time that he was auditioning with her as his sob story.

Has no one considered that maybe he hasn't said anything because he doesn't know yet? Plenty of people have more sophisticated sexual responses to the world that they can't describe easily. Or perhaps he doesn't want to talk about it, in which case why would you speculate? Why does it matter to you? It's only who he sleeps with. It doesn't impact any other part of his life.

Or maybe she's someone who falls in love with the person, not the gender and doesn't want a label placed on her relationship choices.

It's just gossip, about people who have chosen to put themselves in the public eye knowing all that brings with it. People were just as prurient about speculation over Chloe Jasmine and Stevi Ritchie's relationship, the difference being that they went public and confirmed it pretty early on (which led to the speculation changing to 'it's a showmance' instead because people are people).

IF it is Matt and another lad, yes, he might not be sure yet. Could be any of the other lads though.

Straight is the default position just like white is in relation to race, mainly because they are the majority attributes of the UK population.

Is not saying you are gay when you are gay, keeping it real?

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think it's weird to speculate about relationships between celebrities (really honestly, does anyone actually care) and this is one of those cases. But the threads about Matt's sexuality started before this. Speculating about someone's sexuality in 2016 just seems wrong to me. Ultimately, if the lad didn't have the answer himself then imagine the immense sort of pressure he could be experiencing with all this.


Exactly, it's all pure speculation about it being Matt. People for some reason find it titillating.

Why do you think you're entitled to know someone's inner most private romantic and sexual thoughts? What if he doesn't even know?

Because the best music I've ever heard is all about exactly that. What does an artist draw on when they are expressive in performance, their experiences, their values? If you take that out what are listening to?

Personally I'll gossip about anyone and anything so I don't really have a moral leg to stand on I understand your point though. If the articles are true and the couple are indeed out to their families and friends then it does sound like they're happy and at peace with themselves though, whoever they actually are.

I suspect a lot of the speculation isn't intended to be negative or harmful though, the whole yaoi/slash thing is immensely popular and I think the vast majority of fans of it genuinely don't realise how obnoxious/offensive/uncomfortable it can be to the men targeted by it, whether those men are gay/bi or not.

BiB - I think this is spot on and an often ignored complexity in speculation over sexuality. People aren't always forthcoming (and why, actually, should they be?) for a myriad of reasons. They could be gay, but uncomfortable declaring it for whatever reasons (valid or not), or they could be gay and don't even know it themselves yet. They might even have an inkling but until one 'explores' and 'consolidates', so to speak, how can you be sure? He's still pretty damn young, after all.

If you've grown up straight and never had cause to even question your straightness, I suspect it's a nuance that goes straight over your head. Trying to force simplistic black and white (and clearly stated) sexual identities on others just because that's your experience is unrealistic.

Why does the gender of the person they're singing about matter? As I noted about, sexuality is simply who you're attracted sexually. It impacts no other part of your life. I'm sure you can deal with not knowing who his songs are addressed to. It's just being a gossip, there's nothing more to it.


They're all fair comments. I think it's wrong whoever is speculating. It's someone's life and their right to enjoy privacy. Sometimes it's nice to have something that's just for you and you don't share with the world. I can appreciate that and that's why I'm against this sort of speculation. Though I agree entirely that people don't think things through before saying them. They likely don't intend harm.


Exactly, as crude as the majority of people's sexual experiences tend to be, some are more sophisticated (by that I mean complicated) and can't be pinned down with one word. I say good for him whether he's gay, straight or half rice/half chips who cares. Let him enjoy his life and his privacy.

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I didn't know that, my daughter had a huge crush on him at the time!

genuinely didn't cross my mind that Matt may be gay, good luck to them what a good looking couple they make... if its true that is.
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I think this is about Bradley and Ottavio rather than Matt.

BiB - FWIW and just in case, that's not intended to be an attack on 'ignorant' straight people though it having read it back it could possibly be interpreted as such. I think the same can be equally true of some gay people who have never had cause to ponder things in any more depth than where they want to stick things/have things stuck.

Good grief it wasn't exactly a shocking secret reveal and who cares?

If the papers are right and two of the finalists are gay then good for them we are in the 21st century who actually cares, it wont stop me supporting the people in question.

Why does everyone assume the papers are talking about Matt and Freddy it could be two other people