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I think this is about Bradley and Ottavio rather than Matt.
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BiB - FWIW and just in case, that's not intended to be an attack on 'ignorant' straight people though it having read it back it could possibly be interpreted as such. I think the same can be equally true of some gay people who have never had cause to ponder things in any more depth than where they want to stick things/have things stuck.
I think what the person was trying to say was that monosexual people and especially people who call themselves 'heterosexual' might not understand first hand the experience of not being able to find a word that fits one own sexual experience. It's not to say that they're ignorant, they can understand it for sure. But they don't have necessarily a first hand experience to relate it to. The same is true of people who call themselves 'homosexual' straight up, they don't know what it's like to be bi. They're qualitiatively different things. |
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So you're saying that some or a lot of LGBT people only thing about sex? Seems like a sweeping generalisation. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't mean that. If you did, I'm not gonna flip out either. I can see how very obnoxious LGBT people could make you see it like that, but rest assured there are people from all different backgrounds.
I think what the person was trying to say was that monosexual people and especially people who call themselves 'heterosexual' might not understand first hand the experience of not being able to find a word that fits one own sexual experience. It's not to say that they're ignorant, they can understand it for sure. But they don't have necessarily a first hand experience to relate it to. The same is true of people who call themselves 'homosexual' straight up, they don't know what it's like to be bi. They're qualitiatively different things.
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aw that's cute! although I'd personally have picked that one from judges houses? james hughes? I think, he seemed very cute
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I actually think that this would only make him a lot more likeable, teen girls (who probably are his main demographic) wouldn't stop voting for him just because he might have something with another guy, and probably a lot of them would ship Matt with Freddy and vote even more.
Also, I always found his "sob" story about her girlfriend breaking up with him too cheesy and kind of annoying, so this would be a quite nice turn of events. |
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Sorry not my argument at all but I don't think that's what mmpfb was saying at all - my interpretation of his/her post is that you are both saying basically the same thing.
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I think this is about Bradley and Ottavio rather than Matt.
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I actually think that this would only make him a lot more likeable, teen girls (who probably are his main demographic) wouldn't stop voting for him just because he might have something with another guy, and probably a lot of them would ship Matt with Freddy and vote even more.
Also, I always found his "sob" story about her girlfriend breaking up with him too cheesy and kind of annoying, so this would be a quite nice turn of events. |
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So you're saying that some or a lot of LGBT people only thing about sex? Seems like a sweeping generalisation. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't mean that. If you did, I'm not gonna flip out either. I can see how very obnoxious LGBT people could make you see it like that, but rest assured there are people from all different backgrounds.
All I'm saying is that people have difficulty seeing beyond their own experience. So, if their experience is very black and white and unquestioning, they may well expect others to be very black and white too. If, however, your experience is of something a little more ambiguous, or fluid, or even if you just went through a formative period of attempting to convince yourself you could be straight because it would be 'easier' (as I did, at an older age than Matt FWIW), then you more readily understand that solid, unambiguous and unchanging sexual identifications for a lot of people are more complicated and tend to reveal themselves gradually rather than in some sort of grand epiphany. |
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Eh? Not at all. I'm gay and I think about tea more than I think about sex.
All I'm saying is that people have difficulty seeing beyond their own experience. So, if their experience is very black and white and unquestioning, they may well expect others to be very black and white too. If, however, your experience is of something a little more ambiguous, or fluid, or even if you just went through a formative period of attempting to convince yourself you could be straight because it would be 'easier' (as I did, at an older age than Matt FWIW), then you more readily understand that solid, unambiguous and unchanging sexual identifications for a lot of people are more complicated and tend to reveal themselves gradually rather than in some sort of grand epiphany. |
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..... and when I suggested he might be gay a few weeks back I was derided and abused. I hope some of those people will apologise to me now.
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..... and when I suggested he might be gay a few weeks back I was derided and abused. I hope some of those people will apologise to me now.
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Daily Star said they met in bootcamp. Brtavio boys cooked chicken way before that.
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think it's weird to speculate about relationships between celebrities (really honestly, does anyone actually care) and this is one of those cases. But the threads about Matt's sexuality started before this. Speculating about someone's sexuality in 2016 just seems wrong to me. Ultimately, if the lad didn't have the answer himself then imagine the immense sort of pressure he could be experiencing with all this.
Exactly, it's all pure speculation about it being Matt. People for some reason find it titillating. I'd assume a lot of the speculators are gay themselves so it's more "who's in our club?". I don't think anyone truly cares. But they're interested. There's nothing wrong with being gay so there's nothing wrong with speculating.
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This is the bit I don't get. Most people who speculate on someone's sexuality aren't doing it as a witch hunt. They're doing it because they're nosy.
I'd assume a lot of the speculators are gay themselves so it's more "who's in our club?". I don't think anyone truly cares. But they're interested. There's nothing wrong with being gay so there's nothing wrong with speculating. ![]() |
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This is the bit I don't get. Most people who speculate on someone's sexuality aren't doing it as a witch hunt. They're doing it because they're nosy.
I'd assume a lot of the speculators are gay themselves so it's more "who's in our club?". I don't think anyone truly cares. But they're interested. There's nothing wrong with being gay so there's nothing wrong with speculating. ![]() |
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Exactly. It's the modern day version of gossiping over the garden fence. It's always gone on it's just that the internet has brought the world into our back garden
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He does not need stories to derail him - his weak voice and lack of stage presence should do that more than adequately
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It was obvious from early on in the live shows something was going on between Matt & Freddy.
disgraceful media though outing somebody in public. |
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It was obvious from early on in the live shows something was going on between Matt & Freddy.
disgraceful media though outing somebody in public. A couples of weeks ago Louis was praising Matt and his performance and Simon made a comment like "well we all know why [you like Matt]" I thought at the time Simon was insinuating Matt was gay, which is out of order. |
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i'm not sure this is true (it's the daily star after all) BUT i am seeing a lot of people on twitter and facebook say it's matt terry and jordan from 5am, i think that it's not matt and freddy because:
1. the article says "kept in touch during judges houses" that means they wern't together during judges houses but matt and freddy were so they didn't need to keep in touch 2. i may be alone on this, but the article makes it seem the two contestants are still in the show 3. matt and freddy are seen in so many photos on twitter etc so if they are dating then they ain't hiding it |
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Who cares what they get up to behind close doors. Many pop stars get up to no good anyway
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Funny I've thought for a while there was an attraction between Matt and the singer from 5AM. Just a feeling. They seem very close to me... 💪🏼😍
I did wonder why Freddy was hanging around so much though. You don't really see much of the contestants immediately after they leave.. |
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Can you be more descriptive please. Are you referring to spider head, big ears or high-rise haircut? (sorry, but I'm not going to waste time learning their names seeing as they'll be history by New Year's Day)
Also, I can't believe anyone is actually surprised that Matt might be gay
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> Almost 2017
> People still care about others' sexual orientation Welp |
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I'd assume a lot of the speculators are gay themselves so it's more "who's in our club?". I don't think anyone truly cares. But they're interested. There's nothing wrong with being gay so there's nothing wrong with speculating.