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Old 03-12-2016, 12:54
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Where do you get that bit from?
Cos they would vote Labour not for the wishy washy party.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:57
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Wen May loses the next GE, there will be a lot of things to discuss regarding our relationship with the EU.
Sad attempt at humour. Anyway, it was only yesterday you were accepting of the referendum result.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:00
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I am so outraged by this result that I will be moving out in disgust.



Though obviously not until after I've moved there so I can do that.
Careful you don't buy a house between Trevgo and Aurichie.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:00
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I think what we can say from this is that Richmond voters would love a third runway, and a fourth, fifth and sixth.
No, just that they are prepared to put their own local interests aside for the country's best interests. Good for them.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:01
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I think you miss the intended irony of this entire thread.

I am sure the people of Richmond Park with their mostly safe and very comfortable and privileged lives knew what they were voting for on Thursday.

The issue is the Lib Dems are calling for a second referendum because they claim the rest of us didn't know what we were voting for on 23 June.

This thread is intended to expose the Lib Dems double standards - they only seem to agree with democracy when they get the result they want. And close elections should only be re run when they don't win them.
But you've got your second vote. In four years time.

And Olney didn't lie to the electorate and renege on those lies withing 24 hours.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:02
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Cos they would vote Labour not for the wishy washy party.
Haven't the Lib Dems promised tax rises?
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:06
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No, just that they are prepared to put their own local interests aside for the country's best interests.
How so they voted for a candidate that opposes ano runway at Heathrow and anyway how do you know unless you asked them all. Plus of course nobody knows if the rest of the country give a f**k what the constituents of Richmond Park think is in the best interests of the country.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:11
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I think you miss the intended irony of this entire thread.

I am sure the people of Richmond Park with their mostly safe and very comfortable and privileged lives knew what they were voting for on Thursday.

The issue is the Lib Dems are calling for a second referendum because they claim the rest of us didn't know what we were voting for on 23 June.

This thread is intended to expose the Lib Dems double standards - they only seem to agree with democracy when they get the result they want. And close elections should only be re run when they don't win them.

Irony may have been the intention but it failed dismally. It was pretty pathetic and childish - I'm surprised so many have risen to the bait.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:17
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Irony may have been the intention but it failed dismally. It was pretty pathetic and childish - I'm surprised so many have risen to the bait.
No - it just exposes the complete double standards of the Lib Dems and their second referendum call. No doubt they will want a third or a fourth or a fifth until they get us to stay in the EU?

They want to abolish the Lords as it is undemocratic - or did - but now want to use their voting block of 104 Lib Dem peers to block the expected will of the Commons on A50 and the public in a referendum.

Why on earth do we have 104 Lib Dem Unelected Lords anyway - but almost no SNP, Plaid or UKIP peers? It's about time some of them were Dethroned.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:27
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Careful you don't buy a house between Trevgo and Aurichie.
Well Duh, Richmond *Park*, it's a park so there are no houses, I just need a tent, do they not have geography where you're from, this is exactly the kind of ignorance I would expect from people who have no idea WTF I'm on about, I'm deeply shocked and utterly appalled at the prejudice being shown towards our elders and betters, were it not for the fact that obviously our elders can't be betters because they are uneducated like wot we were told and if I move in from a different suburb that's practically foreign and they don't like them either and now I'm jealous of Oscar The Grouch because his home wan't just mobile, it was entirely portable and just wouldn't have this sort of problem in an area where they don't build enough houses to be anywhere near the running for pontificating about homelessness and other such things that the 'wealthy but genuinely concerned' class like to do but I'm reasonably sure I don't have to worry about people who surely have made good on their promises and already emigrated


[ and a little gold star for anyone who actually made it to the end of that ]
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:30
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This thread is intended to expose the Lib Dems double standards - they only seem to agree with democracy when they get the result they want. And close elections should only be re run when they don't win them.
That may be the intention, but it is a big fat fail on that part.

There WILL be another election in Richmond Park and it is less than four years away. The LibDems are not opposing this.

Olney campaigned on a number of issues, and didn't renege on any of them within hours of the polls closing.

I understand that it might make you feel better if you can have a laugh at something, but you must realising you are kidding yourself if you think there is any legitimacy to this particular approach.


They want to abolish the Lords as it is undemocratic - or did - but now want to use their voting block of 104 Lib Dem peers to block the expected will of the Commons on A50 and the public in a referendum.

Why on earth do we have 104 Lib Dem Unelected Lords anyway - but almost no SNP, Plaid or UKIP peers? It's about time some of them were Dethroned.
Yes, the LibDems did want further reform to the House of Lords, but the Tories objected. In the last couple of years, as certain members of the Tory Government have been pushing causes that are both ridiculous and bad for the country, the existing Lords - from all parties, have been challenging bad proposals. The point of the Lords, in whatever form you prefer, is to challenge bad legislation, and it would be immoral for Lords of any persuasion to neglect this. Most of the appointments are there because they have considerable experience in law-making, or aspects of British society. I don't agree with all of the appointments, but they are supposed to serve as the voice of reason and experience. MPs can get caught up with populist, but unworkable ideology, and it's the purpose of the Lords to tell them to stop being so daft.

The SNP have decided they don't want to have any representatives in the House of Lords, although it doesn't stop them from moaning about it. I'm not sure about the others you mention.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:40
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This result was not the one that should have happened. We need to have another by-election and then hopefully we'll get the result we wanted. There has been a rise in hate crime since Sarah Olney was elected. A future without Zac Goldsmith will be an absolute disaster for our country. There is already a petition underway for a second by-election. This one was only advisory!
Call an early General Election and you've got one!!
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:40
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The Liberal-Democrats are becoming almost as big a joke as UKIP.

At a time when the should be grateful & celebrating that they now have to hire a minibus to transport all their MPs as the old VW Caravelle can't carry 9 MPs plus a driver, they decide to insult the intelligence of people who voted out in the referendum by claiming they didn't vote to leave the single market, despite that being the one constant we were all told throughout the campaign.

The hypocrisy of Tim Farron is breathtaking & he risks doing eternal damage to his party if he doesn't change his tune.

Sarah Olney's gutless display during a telephone call from a radio host has further compounded their misery.

Politics in the UK is a right shambles at the moment & we're virtually a one party state.
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:08
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How so they voted for a candidate that opposes ano runway at Heathrow and anyway how do you know unless you asked them all. Plus of course nobody knows if the rest of the country give a f**k what the constituents of Richmond Park think is in the best interests of the country.
Olney may be opposed to a third runway but voting for her over Zac, who'd explicitly run on an anti 3rd runway ticket sends a message that they are more worried about opposing Brexit than the third runway.

If you want to think that Richmond is somehow magically different to the rest of the country, go right ahead.
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:08
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Your problem is they did.

Unless you can point out where Olney promised a non existent 350m for the NHS then withdrew that the very next day.

Tell you what, you can have one anyway in 2020, can't say fairer than that. Now, when can we have our second vote?
2057.
EU refereda are every 41 years.
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:09
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No - it just exposes the complete double standards of the Lib Dems and their second referendum call.
But you'll get another vote in Richmond. In 2020. So do we get a second EU ref? Or is it you being the hypocrite?
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:19
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Olney may be opposed to a third runway but voting for her over Zac, who'd explicitly run on an anti 3rd runway ticket sends a message that they are more worried about opposing Brexit than the third runway.

If you want to think that Richmond is somehow magically different to the rest of the country, go right ahead.
Well they are different given that Richmond voted strongly for remain whilst the rest of the country voted, by a small margin, for exit.
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:22
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Olney may be opposed to a third runway but voting for her over Zac, who'd explicitly run on an anti 3rd runway ticket sends a message that they are more worried about opposing Brexit than the third runway.
I never said it didn't, merely that it voted in its own interests.

If you want to think that Richmond is somehow magically different to the rest of the country, go right ahead.
Most amusing that anything would think it isn't.
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:23
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Labour losing deposits is nothing unusual. They lost their deposit in the Christchurch by election in 1993 - four years later they won a landslide nationally.
Untill recently Labour used to lose their deposit on a regualr basis here.
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:26
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This result was not the one that should have happened. We need to have another by-election and then hopefully we'll get the result we wanted. There has been a rise in hate crime since Sarah Olney was elected. A future without Zac Goldsmith will be an absolute disaster for our country. There is already a petition underway for a second by-election. This one was only advisory!
I can't see how Zac Goldsmith being an MP is imperative to the future of our country.
Are you sure you're feeling well?

Or is this a feeble wind-up by someone with amoeba-style intelligence?
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:29
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I never said it didn't, merely that it voted in its own interests.



Most amusing that anything would think it isn't.
Richmond park is the second wealthiest constituency by earnings in the UK and average house prices exceed £1m. You would struggle to buy a one bed flat for £400k.

It is typical of very wealthy areas with £1m plus average house prices - in other words not typical at all!
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:35
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Well they are different given that Richmond voted strongly for remain whilst the rest of the country voted, by a small margin, for exit.
Really, all of it outside Richmond? Well I never!
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:42
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I can't see how Zac Goldsmith being an MP is imperative to the future of our country.
Are you sure you're feeling well?

Or is this a feeble wind-up by someone with amoeba-style intelligence?
Not at all - it's irony ...............apparently
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Old 03-12-2016, 14:46
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Richmond park is the second wealthiest constituency by earnings in the UK and average house prices exceed £1m. You would struggle to buy a one bed flat for £400k.

It is typical of very wealthy areas with £1m plus average house prices - in other words not typical at all!
I know, it is also home to the majority of German expats living in London. Magically that mirrors the rest of the country.
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Old 03-12-2016, 15:09
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I know, it is also home to the majority of German expats living in London. Magically that mirrors the rest of the country.
The rest of the country that's flooded by immigrants?
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