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#126 |
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Olney may be opposed to a third runway but voting for her over Zac, who'd explicitly run on an anti 3rd runway ticket sends a message that they are more worried about opposing Brexit than the third runway.
If you want to think that Richmond is somehow magically different to the rest of the country, go right ahead. Desperate. Or, as has been mentioned elsewhere, how refreshing to see the Austrian and Italian losing sides accept defeat in a gracious manner. |
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Precisely, the country as a whole voted for leave yet Richmond voted remain, by about 70% if I remember correctly, soit can't be considered as being the same as the country as a whole.
Unless the by election as magically turned it into an analogue for the country as a whole. Though looking at the by election result it is actually a 'no change'. |
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I never said it was the same as the country as a whole, nowhere is.
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So what did you mean when you said, "If you want to think that Richmond is somehow magically different to the rest of the country, go right ahead.".
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I meant that you can't split the UK into "Richmond" and "the rest" as if all rest has more in common with itself and little in common with Richmond. Plenty of other places voted remain
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But nor can you claim that Richmond is some sort of analogue for the rest of the country, by which I mean that the fact that Richmond voted for an anti brexit candidate cannot be used to claim that the rest of the country is moving in a anti brexit direction.
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So what did you mean when you said, "If you want to think that Richmond is somehow magically different to the rest of the country, go right ahead.".
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As I never made that claim I fail to see the point of this conversation.
So, do you think the Richmond by election result represents a shift away from brexit? |
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Okay so you never explicitly made that claim, I'll accept that.
So, do you think the Richmond by election result represents a shift away from brexit? |
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Interesting story.
http://order-order.com/2016/12/06/gr...tand-richmond/ Did the Greens get given £250,000 by a rich pro remain donor on condition they stand down in Richmond and support the Lib Dems? The local party seems to think so as the order seemingly came from party HQ. |
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I've not looked at the figures closely enough to see if it looks like Brexiters have shifted. But it certainly shows how important Remainers think the issue is.
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Interesting story.
http://order-order.com/2016/12/06/gr...tand-richmond/ Did the Greens get given £250,000 by a rich pro remain donor on condition they stand down in Richmond and support the Lib Dems? The local party seems to think so as the order seemingly came from party HQ. I wonder if UKIP got a bung for not standing. |
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I've not looked at the figures closely enough to see if it looks like Brexiters have shifted. But it certainly shows how important Remainers think the issue is.
Opps posted twice |
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Not really, the Richmond electorate simply shifted their allegiance to a candidate whos views better matched their own.
So if People were just voting on Brexit then has been a 13 per cent swing to leave since June in Richmond park.
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On the basis that she was only there to oppose Brexit there should be another election after Article 50 is invoked.
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On the basis that she was only there to oppose Brexit there should be another election after Article 50 is invoked.
Sarah Olney has departed for Westminster but we are unclear what her destination is. There was no clear road map either - did she take the district line or did she take a detour via Waterloo where Napoleon did surrender. We really do need to double check again as you say because her manifesto was so unclear she couldn't even explain it. |
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The Greens totally deny it and say no payment was offered and none paid.
I wonder if UKIP got a bung for not standing. Maybe UKIP also had an offer. I don't know. The question is who was making the offers? |
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Not really, the Richmond electorate simply shifted their allegiance to a candidate whos views better matched their own.
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Lol this thread has been a right laugh
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Yes - we really do need to be certain what the people of Richmond park meant by their vote last Thursday.
Sarah Olney has departed for Westminster but we are unclear what her destination is. There was no clear road map either - did she take the district line or did she take a detour via Waterloo where Napoleon did surrender. We really do need to double check again as you say because her manifesto was so unclear she couldn't even explain it. |
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...on this issue, showing how important Remainers think the issue is.
In short a candidate who ticked more boxes. |
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