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Old 03-12-2016, 15:32
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.

I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails.
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Old 05-12-2016, 14:46
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.

I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails.
All of Western Europe was delayed, Spain only opened a couple of weeks ago, France, Germany and Italy opened this week too, So it wasn't just the UK

The film opened in the US at a traditionally quiet time of most of Europe's cinemas so they held it back until European Cinemas were busier again, hoping that the sales lost to piracy were mitigated by the increase in revenue from a busier cinema trade
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Old 05-12-2016, 15:52
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.
Amazon US says the Blu-ray is released on 20th December 2016. If people have already made it available to download they must have obtained it through other channels.
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:10
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Amazon US says the Blu-ray is released on 20th December 2016. If people have already made it available to download they must have obtained it through other channels.
Even if they're not obtaining it illegally if I wanted to see the film I'd be in two minds whether to order the disk directly via Amazon. It'll take a week or two to get here but it would be a bit cheaper to get the film in a month from now
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Old 06-12-2016, 14:03
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I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails.
But do they?

A film generally fails (in the flop sense) on its theatrical run - has piracy ever been responsible for that? I think it's more a case that piracy scalps the profits of already successful films, and the short window between a film's release pattern and sell-thru can create discrepensies to be exploited. It is an issue, but the I imagine the sell-thru market will be far harder hit than a film's initial release.
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Old 06-12-2016, 14:30
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Release windows can be strange, when I lived in Maastricht at the far Southern tip of the Netherlands, Aachen in Germany was 15km away, the Belgian border practically runs through the western edge of the town

So a film could arrive weeks earlier in the other two countries and just required a bus trip to either. I'm sure Maastricht's cinema owners were happy about that, but then Finding Dory was something like 2 months earlier in the NL than it was in Germany. I imagine its final release in Germany had fairly empty seats in border towns

Same with the DVD releases Maastricht shops would have the Belgian & German disks before the Dutch release
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Old 07-12-2016, 00:22
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All of Western Europe was delayed, Spain only opened a couple of weeks ago, France, Germany and Italy opened this week too, So it wasn't just the UK
A friend of mine watched it on cinema release around 10th October in Netherlands.
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:42
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I'm planning to go and see this at some stage. I'm quite fascinated by the whole Miracle on the Hudson story.
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Old 07-12-2016, 13:14
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Amazon US says the Blu-ray is released on 20th December 2016. If people have already made it available to download they must have obtained it through other channels.
It's available on iTunes and Amazon Video in the US from Dec. 6th
http://www.newdvdreleasedates.com/m3...d-release-date
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:14
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.

I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails.
They did the same with John Wick. I'd watched it ages before it made it to the cinema and it struggled to make even £2.5M in the UK months after it had been out in the US. Saying that, I did still go to see it at the cinema as I wanted to watch it on the big screen.
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:32
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A friend of mine watched it on cinema release around 10th October in Netherlands.
Yup I was listening to Kermode and Mayo and someone from the Netherlands made the same observation

Even more annoyingly I've been back to Maastricht twice since then and not noticed

It didn't open in Germany until Dec 1st so I'm sure anyone living in Aachen wanting to see it popped across the border in October
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:21
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It's available on iTunes and Amazon Video in the US from Dec. 6th
http://www.newdvdreleasedates.com/m3...d-release-date
Yeah, but I'm guessing that if the OP had seen it for download on the 3rd it was because someone acquired it from an unauthorised source and uploaded it before the official release was available.
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Old 07-12-2016, 17:03
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I saw it on a release dates site for blluray at around 20 December for both UK and US,. I ordered it from US on Amazon, but decided to go for the UK release instead.

Although the UK date is not confirmed, if it is released on that date I will have it same day, as the US release may not reach me until after Christmas.

And if the UK release is delayed I will just go back and order the US release.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:01
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I saw it on a release dates site for blluray at around 20 December for both UK and US,. I ordered it from US on Amazon, but decided to go for the UK release instead.

Although the UK date is not confirmed, if it is released on that date I will have it same day, as the US release may not reach me until after Christmas.

And if the UK release is delayed I will just go back and order the US release.
I very much doubt that Sully will get a UK release until around February as it's still in the charts.
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Old 08-12-2016, 14:32
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I very much doubt that Sully will get a UK release until around February as it's still in the charts.
No prob, I will just cancel the UK order and order the US release on 20 December, which I will probably recieve early January
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Old 08-12-2016, 15:30
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The UK blu-ray release will be in April, they can't issue it till 17 weeks after the cinema release. (17 weeks exactly would be April 3rd, but sometimes it's 1 or 2 weeks after.)

Some films are always going to get delayed release in the UK- there are a limited number of screens, and as such a limited number of films that can get a wide release at any one time, and here we have UK films being released that aren't getting released in America.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:32
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I must admit I saw it online
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:15
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Not much talk about the film itself, what did ye think? Personally I liked it a lot, despite already knowing the story and having seen documentaries about it previously it still seemed quite fresh and interesting. One thing I didn't realise was the extent to which they tried to blamed Sullenberger for his actions.
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:20
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Not much talk about the film itself, what did ye think? Personally I liked it a lot, despite already knowing the story and having seen documentaries about it previously it still seemed quite fresh and interesting. One thing I didn't realise was the extent to which they tried to blamed Sullenberger for his actions.
There's a lot of debate as to how real the post-crash interviews are, a lot of people are saying the agencies weren't as inquisitorial as portrayed and it's a bit of over dramatisation by Eastwood to create drama
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Old 19-12-2016, 13:19
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Not much talk about the film itself, what did ye think? Personally I liked it a lot, despite already knowing the story and having seen documentaries about it previously it still seemed quite fresh and interesting. One thing I didn't realise was the extent to which they tried to blamed Sullenberger for his actions.
I haven't seen it yet but I'm really interested in the story of Miracle on the Hudson. I've watched loads of documentaries and watched most of the interviews Sullenberger and the crew did for US TV back in 2009. CBS 60 Minutes is probably the best one and you'll find it on Youtube. Just type in 'cbs 60 minutes saving flight 1549' and you should find it. I don't know how true the investigations are (some dramatic effect might have been used) but I think there were a lot of questions over whether he did the right thing or not.
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Old 20-12-2016, 15:48
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I saw this last weekend and thought it was an excellent film. The way the story is cleverly structured helped to build the tension towards the climax. I'm pretty sure the way in which the final reveal was presented as live simulations in front of a large public hearing courtroom, was dramatic license. As a film, however, it works.

In the end, I don't think the authorities were "out to get him" or scapegoat him. And they weren't shown in that way in the film.

They were initially presented with information that lead to an obvious (but ultimately shown to be an incorrect) conclusion. And there was time pressure to come to a conclusion rapidly. When you think how unlikely it was that a) both engines would be taken out by a bird strike and b) how unlikely it was that landing on the river would be the only successful outcome pilot error was a natural conclusion.

They were at fault for drawing conclusions too hastily from incomplete evidence and based on assumptions that were wrong.
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Old 22-12-2016, 07:55
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I saw this last week as well.
Really enjoyed it.
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Old 23-12-2016, 15:56
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I saw the film back in September when I was in LA and thought it was a well made film with top notch acting, I have read in interviews that the real Sully mentioned that the NTSB were only doing their job to find out how and why the incident happened.
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:26
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Well initial ranting aside, I did see it in the end

I liked it - the recreation of the crash and the period leading up to it was genuinely gripping, and the investigation afterwards was well worked and Tom Hanks is always good value in roles like this.

Reading around though, it does appear to be that the script used a lot of artistic licence to basically create an antagonist for them to play off so you'd root for Sully even more because they said that a lot of the interviews and things they went through were quite routine - they were drug tested almost immediately after the crash and found to be clean.

I don't mind though as i do think it all worked fairly well.
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:13
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All of Western Europe was delayed, Spain only opened a couple of weeks ago, France, Germany and Italy opened this week too, So it wasn't just the UK

The film opened in the US at a traditionally quiet time of most of Europe's cinemas so they held it back until European Cinemas were busier again, hoping that the sales lost to piracy were mitigated by the increase in revenue from a busier cinema trade
There isn't much of a difference in seasonal adjustments between the UK and the US, cinema going remains fairly even between both with high points enjoyed by both in the summer and around the xmas season.

Release scheduling has been an issue for a long time with no clear resolve by studios to address it. By delaying international releases it increases piracy as will be the case with Sully where torrenting sites will be choc a block with blu-ray rips. The other problem not unique to Sully is that the most important selling period for filmed entertainment both physical and more importantly digital is the xmas season and whilst the US studios will earn lots of revenue from rental and sales, revenue will be much smaller when releases filter through from the UK at Easter which is quite strange considering that the UK is the number one market for US filmed entertainment.

Even stranger is that whilst revenue continues to decline through sales and rental of physical media digital is not only filling the gap revenue is growing much faster than box office and by 2018 will overtake it. Digital has given studios almost total control over distribution of filmed entertainment whereas physical could never deliver a satisfactory return either revenue or profit. They had to rely mostly on gueswork, how many physical copies to make and distribute both costly and there were few opportunities to have a shared revenue model similar to cinemas with very few companies such as Blockbuster and Rogers able to deliver revenue share in a controlled environment. Today digital allows Amazon, Apple and many others to distribute films and return a share of revenue through rental, studios no longer have to guess how many copies are needed to satisfy demand, no longer having warehouses choc a bloc with returns and expensive sales and distribution overheads.
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