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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.
I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails. |
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.
I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails. The film opened in the US at a traditionally quiet time of most of Europe's cinemas so they held it back until European Cinemas were busier again, hoping that the sales lost to piracy were mitigated by the increase in revenue from a busier cinema trade |
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.
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Amazon US says the Blu-ray is released on 20th December 2016. If people have already made it available to download they must have obtained it through other channels.
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I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails.
A film generally fails (in the flop sense) on its theatrical run - has piracy ever been responsible for that? I think it's more a case that piracy scalps the profits of already successful films, and the short window between a film's release pattern and sell-thru can create discrepensies to be exploited. It is an issue, but the I imagine the sell-thru market will be far harder hit than a film's initial release. |
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Release windows can be strange, when I lived in Maastricht at the far Southern tip of the Netherlands, Aachen in Germany was 15km away, the Belgian border practically runs through the western edge of the town
So a film could arrive weeks earlier in the other two countries and just required a bus trip to either. I'm sure Maastricht's cinema owners were happy about that, but then Finding Dory was something like 2 months earlier in the NL than it was in Germany. I imagine its final release in Germany had fairly empty seats in border towns Same with the DVD releases Maastricht shops would have the Belgian & German disks before the Dutch release |
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All of Western Europe was delayed, Spain only opened a couple of weeks ago, France, Germany and Italy opened this week too, So it wasn't just the UK
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I'm planning to go and see this at some stage. I'm quite fascinated by the whole Miracle on the Hudson story.
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Amazon US says the Blu-ray is released on 20th December 2016. If people have already made it available to download they must have obtained it through other channels.
http://www.newdvdreleasedates.com/m3...d-release-date |
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I get why the UK release has been delayed, mainly because it's quintessentially an american hero story that they probably thought wouldn't sell too well over here but what makes it more ridiculous is that it's been delayed so long it's now available to buy on bluray in the states and, subsequently, available as a full 1080p rip online.
I just find it rather silly that the studios do this time and time again and try and blame piracy if the film fails. |
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A friend of mine watched it on cinema release around 10th October in Netherlands.
Even more annoyingly I've been back to Maastricht twice since then and not noticed It didn't open in Germany until Dec 1st so I'm sure anyone living in Aachen wanting to see it popped across the border in October |
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It's available on iTunes and Amazon Video in the US from Dec. 6th
http://www.newdvdreleasedates.com/m3...d-release-date |
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I saw it on a release dates site for blluray at around 20 December for both UK and US,. I ordered it from US on Amazon, but decided to go for the UK release instead.
Although the UK date is not confirmed, if it is released on that date I will have it same day, as the US release may not reach me until after Christmas. And if the UK release is delayed I will just go back and order the US release. |
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I saw it on a release dates site for blluray at around 20 December for both UK and US,. I ordered it from US on Amazon, but decided to go for the UK release instead.
Although the UK date is not confirmed, if it is released on that date I will have it same day, as the US release may not reach me until after Christmas. And if the UK release is delayed I will just go back and order the US release. |
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I very much doubt that Sully will get a UK release until around February as it's still in the charts.
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The UK blu-ray release will be in April, they can't issue it till 17 weeks after the cinema release. (17 weeks exactly would be April 3rd, but sometimes it's 1 or 2 weeks after.)
Some films are always going to get delayed release in the UK- there are a limited number of screens, and as such a limited number of films that can get a wide release at any one time, and here we have UK films being released that aren't getting released in America. |
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I must admit I saw it online
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Not much talk about the film itself, what did ye think? Personally I liked it a lot, despite already knowing the story and having seen documentaries about it previously it still seemed quite fresh and interesting. One thing I didn't realise was the extent to which they tried to blamed Sullenberger for his actions.
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Not much talk about the film itself, what did ye think? Personally I liked it a lot, despite already knowing the story and having seen documentaries about it previously it still seemed quite fresh and interesting. One thing I didn't realise was the extent to which they tried to blamed Sullenberger for his actions.
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Not much talk about the film itself, what did ye think? Personally I liked it a lot, despite already knowing the story and having seen documentaries about it previously it still seemed quite fresh and interesting. One thing I didn't realise was the extent to which they tried to blamed Sullenberger for his actions.
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I saw this last weekend and thought it was an excellent film. The way the story is cleverly structured helped to build the tension towards the climax. I'm pretty sure the way in which the final reveal was presented as live simulations in front of a large public hearing courtroom, was dramatic license. As a film, however, it works.
In the end, I don't think the authorities were "out to get him" or scapegoat him. And they weren't shown in that way in the film. They were initially presented with information that lead to an obvious (but ultimately shown to be an incorrect) conclusion. And there was time pressure to come to a conclusion rapidly. When you think how unlikely it was that a) both engines would be taken out by a bird strike and b) how unlikely it was that landing on the river would be the only successful outcome pilot error was a natural conclusion. They were at fault for drawing conclusions too hastily from incomplete evidence and based on assumptions that were wrong. |
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I saw this last week as well.
Really enjoyed it. |
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I saw the film back in September when I was in LA and thought it was a well made film with top notch acting, I have read in interviews that the real Sully mentioned that the NTSB were only doing their job to find out how and why the incident happened.
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Well initial ranting aside, I did see it in the end
![]() I liked it - the recreation of the crash and the period leading up to it was genuinely gripping, and the investigation afterwards was well worked and Tom Hanks is always good value in roles like this. Reading around though, it does appear to be that the script used a lot of artistic licence to basically create an antagonist for them to play off so you'd root for Sully even more because they said that a lot of the interviews and things they went through were quite routine - they were drug tested almost immediately after the crash and found to be clean. I don't mind though as i do think it all worked fairly well. |
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All of Western Europe was delayed, Spain only opened a couple of weeks ago, France, Germany and Italy opened this week too, So it wasn't just the UK
The film opened in the US at a traditionally quiet time of most of Europe's cinemas so they held it back until European Cinemas were busier again, hoping that the sales lost to piracy were mitigated by the increase in revenue from a busier cinema trade Release scheduling has been an issue for a long time with no clear resolve by studios to address it. By delaying international releases it increases piracy as will be the case with Sully where torrenting sites will be choc a block with blu-ray rips. The other problem not unique to Sully is that the most important selling period for filmed entertainment both physical and more importantly digital is the xmas season and whilst the US studios will earn lots of revenue from rental and sales, revenue will be much smaller when releases filter through from the UK at Easter which is quite strange considering that the UK is the number one market for US filmed entertainment. Even stranger is that whilst revenue continues to decline through sales and rental of physical media digital is not only filling the gap revenue is growing much faster than box office and by 2018 will overtake it. Digital has given studios almost total control over distribution of filmed entertainment whereas physical could never deliver a satisfactory return either revenue or profit. They had to rely mostly on gueswork, how many physical copies to make and distribute both costly and there were few opportunities to have a shared revenue model similar to cinemas with very few companies such as Blockbuster and Rogers able to deliver revenue share in a controlled environment. Today digital allows Amazon, Apple and many others to distribute films and return a share of revenue through rental, studios no longer have to guess how many copies are needed to satisfy demand, no longer having warehouses choc a bloc with returns and expensive sales and distribution overheads. |
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