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Cafe owner won't take the new £5 note
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Thine Wonk
03-12-2016
I wonder what DS members will think of this?

http://news.sky.com/story/vegetarian...atred-10681624
Billy_Value
03-12-2016
meh...
netcurtains
03-12-2016
People are bonkers. What else is there to say?
Billy_Value
03-12-2016
She will soon be happy enough to take them when she hasn't got a pot to piss in
KornerKabin
03-12-2016
With the world in such a crazy state of despair, upset and unease, I find getting on your high horse about a bit of animal fat in a bank note quite distasteful (pun intended).

Yes principles are important to uphold, but I often wish that people would choose their battles more carefully and this isn't one of them.
tremol
03-12-2016
Offer them the money, if they don't want it, walk away.
Thine Wonk
03-12-2016
I just read this:

"Professor David Solomon, who developed the first polymer bank note in circulation in Australia in 1988, said the new £5 notes contain “trivial” amounts of tallow, an animal fat which is also found in candles and soap."
blueblade
03-12-2016
I hope she has the message in clear plain view outside her cafe, so that customers unfortunate to only be armed with fivers, don't waste their time waiting for a cup of tea inside.
D_Mcd4
03-12-2016
Wait and I'll go back into my leather wallet and get a tenner for you instead...
dip_transfer
03-12-2016
She ought to go and check all the labels of the products she uses in her Cafe before she complains
tremol
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“Wait and I'll go back into my leather wallet and get a tenner for you instead...”

That is the most subtle point I have seen
blueblade
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by dip_transfer:
“She ought to go and check all the labels of the products she uses in her Cafe before she complains”

Wonder what she washes her hands with?
ianradioian
03-12-2016
A business turning away money?


😃😃😃
shackfan
03-12-2016
Well she is simply standing by her principals. She's a veggie as she cares for animals and doesn't want any killed to provide her with food (I think all veggies should be vegan or they're slightly hypocritical buts I digress). So her thinking is why should animals be killed to be used for these notes. She has a point.
I will add I'm not a vegetarian or vegan and I'm not personally bothered other than curious as to why they need to do this.
koantemplation
03-12-2016
Isn't it against the law to refuse certain currency? Legal tender and all that?
Thine Wonk
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“Well she is simply standing by her principals. She's a veggie as she cares for animals and doesn't want any killed to provide her with food (I think all veggies should be vegan or they're slightly hypocritical buts I digress). So her thinking is why should animals be killed to be used for these notes. She has a point.
I will add I'm not a vegetarian or vegan and I'm not personally bothered other than curious as to why they need to do this.”

I wonder if she'll be as principled when they bring out the new £10 next year or the £20 note in 2020 (assuming they don't remove the traces of tallow).
tremol
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“Well she is simply standing by her principals. She's a veggie as she cares for animals and doesn't want any killed to provide her with food (I think all veggies should be vegan or they're slightly hypocritical buts I digress). So her thinking is why should animals be killed to be used for these notes. She has a point.
I will add I'm not a vegetarian or vegan and I'm not personally bothered other than curious as to why they need to do this.”

Which is fine. But her principles are not my principles.

If I offer money, she takes it or doesnt.
gds1972
03-12-2016
As it's legal tender I'm not sure if the retailer is allowed to refuse it.
brian_w
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by dip_transfer:
“She ought to go and check all the labels of the products she uses in her Cafe before she complains”

That's my thought too. Whilst I respect her views, I just wonder how many other items in the property may contain traces of animal products.
David_Herfrel
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by gds1972:
“As it's legal tender I'm not sure if the retailer is allowed to refuse it.”

She can accept or refuse any form of payment she wants.

Legal tender is to do with what must be accepted in settling a debt via a court judgment.
d'@ve
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by gds1972:
“As it's legal tender I'm not sure if the retailer is allowed to refuse it.”

Only if it's for settlement of a debt (the offer of a fiver to settle a £5 debt would be sufficient to settle the debt). But if the cafe staff bring the new £5 note ban to the customer's attention before providing the service, I think the customer would be deemed to have accepred the condition and would be obliged to pay by other means or using other notes or coins. Sticking a note in the window would on its own not, I suspect, not be sufficient unless the customer acknowledged that he or she had seen and read it.
tremol
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“Only if it's for settlement of a debt (the offer of a fiver to settle a £5 debt would be sufficient to settle the debt). But if the cafe staff bring the new £5 note ban to the customer's attention before providing the service, I think the customer would be deemed to have accepred the condition and would be obliged to pay by other means or using other notes or coins.”

Sausage and Egg please, £3. heres a £5

offer accepted.
gomezz
03-12-2016
What if the customer proffers an old fiver or tenner that has been rubbing up against a new fiver?

Credit card payments should presumably be refused too as the plastic is derived from an animal product (mineral oil).
d'@ve
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by tremol:
“Sausage and Egg please, £3. heres a £5

offer accepted.”

No idea what you mean by that.
Gordie1
03-12-2016
I would do the same thing as when a restaurant refused my Scottish £20 note, I offered it twice then left my contact details and walked out telling them they had refuse payment and that I considered the payment refused.
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