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I could understand it more if she lived a vegan lifestyle and avoided all animal produce and by products but she's just a vegetarian, no one is asking her to eat a fiver. Half of the stuff in her cafe will have used animal by products to make so it just makes no sense to make a fuss over one item and not the rest.
Personally I think if you're going to kill an animal for it's meat you should use as much of the animal as you can, don't waste any so I don't have a problem with animal by products. It would be a bit weird of me to not to since I own two dogs which don't really fit in with a vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. |
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"We all said we felt very uneasy about handling it (the note). We thought the only way round this is to just not accept them." Said the owner of the vegetarian cafe (not vegan) which sells eggs and milk products.
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if i remember right they get involved in things ethical
they do have very, very nice food and fill the gap left by arjuna`s cafe. they are known for their ethics so i`m not sure. Importing food from thousands of miles away for example is going to have a far more -ve impact on the environment and carbon footprint, than buying locally sourced produce. |
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"We all said we felt very uneasy about handling it (the note). We thought the only way round this is to just not accept them." Said the owner of the vegetarian cafe (not vegan) which sells eggs and milk products.
I do hope she's for the death of flies and bacteria though. You have to draw a line somewhere. |
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"We all said we felt very uneasy about handling it (the note). We thought the only way round this is to just not accept them." Said the owner of the vegetarian cafe (not vegan) which sells eggs and milk products.
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"We all said we felt very uneasy about handling it (the note). We thought the only way round this is to just not accept them." Said the owner of the vegetarian cafe (not vegan) which sells eggs and milk products.
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"We all said we felt very uneasy about handling it (the note). We thought the only way round this is to just not accept them." Said the owner of the vegetarian cafe (not vegan) which sells eggs and milk products.
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I presume she will close the cafe once we have plastic 10 and 20 pound notes then, unless she starts accepting coins or cards only. If she has a change of heart then that would surely make her a hypocrite.
Maybe she could just go card only and hope no tallow is used however tiny in the plastic coating on credit and debit cards, because if it is then then she'll have to close. |
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If I was in charge of the Bank Of England my message to those complaining about the new fiver would be "Thank you for your comments, go forth and multiply".
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If I was in charge of the Bank Of England my message to those complaining about the new fiver would be "Thank you for your comments, go forth and multiply".
"This issue has only just come to light, and the Bank did not know about it when the contract was signed." [Supplier] Innovia is now working intensively with its supply chain and will keep the Bank informed on progress towards potential solutions," it added. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38164921 |
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My wallet's made of leather.
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It would be determined as a civil matter.
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Maybe she could just go card only
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Isn't it against the law to refuse certain currency? Legal tender and all that?
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Some might imagine this to be a Religious Tolerance and Intolerance and Freeman of the Lands thread.
If they don't want to take it then fine. If I eat there, I'll make sure I have another means of payment or pop out to the Cashpoint. |
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well all those people in England not accepting Scottish banknotes then!
http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php |
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With the world in such a crazy state of despair, upset and unease, I find getting on your high horse about a bit of animal fat in a bank note quite distasteful (pun intended).
Yes principles are important to uphold, but I often wish that people would choose their battles more carefully and this isn't one of them. Er, I think it is :rolls eyes: It's all money at the end of the day isnt it? She's being an idiot. I think its a vegetarian cafe rather than Vegan, but even if it was, is she eating the fivers? FFS
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It seems that meat eaters like to harp on about how it's their 'choice' if they want to eat meat, and it's vegans' 'choice' to avoid animal products. But when you put killed animal products into currency you're taking away our choice to avoid them, or at the very least making life unnecessarily difficult for us. Maybe you think that's a good thing but that's just hypocrisy.
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Whether or not you agree with having animal fat in the fivers and people's choice to use them or not, either way, it's an incredibly stupid idea to put animal fat in the currency in the first place, and very short-sighted. For whatever reason, personal, religious (e.g. Hindu, Buddhist), ethical, etc, plenty of people have issue - a sizeable enough amount for the Vegetarian food market to survive well and have food labelled in much the same way as Halal or Kosher is.
It's just an incredibly stupid oversight on the part of the Bank of England, and I wonder how they couldn't have predicted such a backlash. |
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I wonder how much it will cost to reissue the five pound notes?
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I wonder how much it will cost to reissue the five pound notes?
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I read the article on the BBC - the way it was worded made it sound like she hadn't even had anyone try to pay with the new £5 note yet. I think it's a petty publicity stunt.
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"We all said we felt very uneasy about handling it (the note). We thought the only way round this is to just not accept them." Said the owner of the vegetarian cafe (not vegan) which sells eggs and milk products.
Amusingly given the context stearic acid's name comes from the Greek word στέαρ "stéar", which means tallow. (Googledfact) |
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No business has so accept your custom and as the venue is private property they could turn you away, but if you ate food and then offered payment via the new £5 then they couldn't refuse it as acceptable payment for the goods, if they refuse it they are effectively deciding not to be paid for the goods.
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It's all money at the end of the day isnt it? She's being an idiot. I think its a vegetarian cafe rather than Vegan, but even if it was, is she eating the fivers? FFS