Where's your "evidence" he didn't?


Blind devotion knows no bounds.


Young was delusional to believe he could tell someone with 53 years professional dance experience how many counts of Salsa was in their routine.

Remind me again. How many years professional dance experience does Young have? He was there to compete, not judge.



I doubt for a minute Len Goodman will lose any sleep over that!

You care too much, it's finished, he's left, you really don't have to rehash all the twaddle.

And Lens going, and not before time.

To be fair though, Len's only experience of Salsa would probably have been from Strictly, and most of the Salsas on the show aren't authentic anyway.

So no "evidence" he didn't throw a strop/tantrum but we both knew that anyway.


And retired gracefully from the show of his own accord rather than stomp off like a blarting babie.

Len Goodman still has enough work to occupy himself with and earned the right to take life easier now at 72.

Of course Will knew how many counts of Salsa there were in the routine, he's a musician for goodness sake, he'd know better than anyone..

It's weeks since Will left the show, the only people he owed an explanation to was the BBC and they were obviously satisfied, they haven't sued, he's worked for them since and he was offered a place in the final dance, He's moved on, the BBC have moved on. the only people who seem to give a toss now are a few people on here and Dan Wooton in the Sun. I think that just about says it all.

No and there's no evidence that Bruno DIDN'T flee the studio at the INJUSTICE of Melvin's elimination until Louise Rainbow called in The A Team to transquilise him and bring him back and there's no evidence that Greg didn't beat off four members of security as he went on a table-flipping rampage over Craig being mean about Natalie's rumba choreography and there's no evidence that Louise and Tess aren't at war and there's no evidence that Daisy and Aljaz AREN'T secretly shagging and there's no evidence that Greg didn't actually really injure his wrist punching the wall in frustration in training and there's no evidence that Ore ISN'T worried that he might not be able to have children after Jo accidentally kicked him in the nads and no evidence that the Cha Cha Challenge WASN'T a massive fix by the producers to eliminate Ed Balls and no evidence that

As Rinder would tell you to make an accusation stick the onus is on the prosecution to prove something did happen rather than on the defense to prove it didn't. It's called innocent until proven guilty and what Len cares about in terms of chreography is wildly arbitary and still in no way, shape or form the fault of the contestant. If you want to play the original game there is NO evidence that Will didn't leave the show because of Len. Len who has thrown his toys out of the pram on plenty of occasions - he's not a stranger to petulance by any means.

Seaside lady, you don't understand the rules of Strictly. It has always been the case that all contestants come back for the final of the show, join in a group dance and get 10 seconds in front of the cameras and join in congratulating the winner. It's in their contracts to be free for the Finals, and the only people who don't make it are those who are genuinely ill (JAde's knee) or are working on cruises on the other side of the world.

Will Young deserves all the bad publicity.

I honestly can't believe people still care either way.

It says a lot about someone who can accept a bad knee as ill health but not mental health issues

What mental health issues? He may have mental health issues. He may have "flounced off". He may have ingrowing toenails for all we know. All we have are a load of newspaper stories from unattributed sources claiming a variety of reasons for Will's departure.

He most certainly does have mental health issues .He has spoken openly about them , they dont just go way you live with them .Whether is was a factor in his departure is not known but I for one will give him the benefit of doubt and my empathy

Precisely. By all means give him your empathy but don't assume you know the explanation for his departure - he has chosen not to say what it is and no doubt he has his reasons for that. A load of strangers rushing to label it "mental-health related" may not be accurate or particularly helpful. You know, many people suffer from all kinds of health problems. It doesn't mean that everything that subsequently happens to them is a recurrence of that previous health problem.

Just this

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Been saying exactly the same since it happened, Blueface and get jumped all over.

I can certainly live without him on SCD (was surprised he signed up actually as it didn't really seem his thing),but was terribly disappointed by his behaviour, like you, having followed him since Pop Idol. I always gave him credit for the mature way he had managed the difficult transition from pop star to artist, and adored him in Cabaret. I absolutely hate the way he seems to have imploded and portray himself as something of a prat.

However, not entirely sure that he quite because he couldn't win. Yes, he is clearly a competitive guy and more credit to him, but I don't think he is that childish. My twopennorth is that he suddenly realised what an enormous amount of work it would be for what he perceived as very little gain and that, combined with the anxiety-inducing judging process, flipped him over the edge. This is a pity because although I don't think SCD was necessarily right for him, it would have allowed the public to see another facet of his personality and perhaps cultivated a new fanbase.

Unfortunately, Will has now joined that select band of competitors for whom Strictly has been a poor career move.

I think all Will's fans are concerned over the way he imploded as he had never let anyone down before even attempting to sing at a show when he lost his voice. So there must have been a good reason and we should give him the benefit of the doubt. He may not be in a position to share this at the moment but he had always talked about his issues at a later date when things have improved.

I don't agree with Blueface, just because he was able to sing, which comes naturally to him, at a small gig is not evidence that he is well. Strictly would be a more stressful situation for him, he looked petrified waiting for the results after his last dance.

there you go with your shallow things like evidence

FACT!

he's very fragile, thats for sure. its hard to understand how he ever thought he could manage strictly, assuming he knew what it was.

its interesting how robust we expect people to be given the excoriating comments directed at celebs and pros alike on these boards. somehow we have little concern for or sense of responsibility around their mental health unless they are diagnosed and open about it. yet i suspect we all know mental un/health is a spectrum that we can all go up and down on.

BIB: That is very true, but then why would someone who feels like that agree to take part in a show like Strictly? Wants to have cake and eat it, perhaps?

He said he loved the show and a lot of people do get a lot out of it it's just some who don't. Laura also loved the show before she got whiplash from some of the personality and inter-show politics surrounding it. It's sad but perhaps you never truly know what your experience of something will be like until you're in it. I bet Laura wished that quitting was an option a few times too.

Will said he entered because he was a fan of the show and wanted to learn to dance. He didn't release an album to coincide with being on the show (as many do) and declined to do any tv interviews. That doesn't smack to me of someone who wants fame for fames sake. It must be a great disappointment to Will that it didn't turn out to be the experience he hoped, for whatever reason.

The Sun newspaper who have initiated all the bad press around Will's Strictly departure definitely have an agenda where Will is concerned. They took every opportunity to claim he was a ringer before the show started when in reality he had far less dance experience than Danny or Louise. As a fan, I can't wait for a show I've always enjoyed to be over. Then the likes of Dan Wooton can leave Will alone and find someone else in the entertainment business to denigrate. After all that's what the gutter press thrive on.

Makes me laugh when the celebs say about "wanting to learn to dance". Have they never heard of dance teachers? Or maybe they don't really want to learn enough that they are actually prepared to pay for lessons!

Welll to be fair, if you were a celebrity and wanted to learn to dance, would you turn down the opportunity to be paid to do it while also potentially giving your career a boost?