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The problem is for older acts (as in 25+) although they're not old in the real music world, Syco are only interested in bubble gum, disposable kiddy pop and so they don't stand sa chance.
Syco are not about building a career, they're about cheap fast lazy easy cash and anyone who doesn't fit into their narrow box is onto a loser from day one |
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Sia is also very well known as a SONGWRITER. She writes songs for herself and other superstars. She got her current recording contract because she wrote hits for others.
Sia shows that 29 really isn't too late to launch a pop career and I think it is no coincidence that Saara chose her song for the audition. |
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Blondie I agree syco is about pop but labyrinth is on his label and he doesn't do pop per se his music is very good, also Ella to an extent doesnt do overly pop! Syco are subtlety changing things up I've noticed,
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Chalk and cheese. Sia's a songwriter plus she's an enigma. Saara's someone who's been doing the rounds of talent shows and not won or got herself a proper recording contract so far. She won't have a chart career. Theatre, or cruise ships, or panto maybe, but I don't think she'll be troublng the charts.
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The problem is for older acts (as in 25+) although they're not old in the real music world, Syco are only interested in bubble gum, disposable kiddy pop and so they don't stand sa chance.
Syco are not about building a career, they're about cheap fast lazy easy cash and anyone who doesn't fit into their narrow box is onto a loser from day one Saara is more Sam Bailey-esque kind of singer - good but forgettable |
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I think bottom line is age doesn't matter it's the type of act you are and how cool you come across image is very important in pop world! and if you are a later bloomer to get a proper record deal so what - if you have the right look image voice (for radio) and good tunes, Connections and really hustle and work hard to improve you can really be successful regardless if you're 18 or 28!! If you have the USP to be marketed to a younger audience that will buy and stream then they won't care how old you are
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The only ones that are marketable are 5AM and that will be two albums that are some what commercially successful at best
Matt Terry could have a successful winner's single and maybe an xmas album for middle aged housewives and grannies but he won't be a chart topping success like Bieber or Drake Emily could also have a successful winner's single but will be forgotten about next year, I can see her having some sort of acting/panto career in Scotland though, maybe UK wide if she's lucky Saara might have some success in Finland if that's the thing they like over there but she's a flop waiting to happen in the UK |
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What did I say on Page 1:
Age Ain't Nothing But A Number (which is what I've been saying) A great album and title track by the late Aaliyah |
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This "desperation" was certainly not on display this weekend. Far from it.
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You are right to a certain degree but in all honesty I'm pretty sure that Saara would never ever been known if it wasn't for this show. Many artists have started late in their pop careers and built a successful career for themselves. I mean Jay-Z (yes I know he is a rapper but still) started late with his debut album Reasonable Doubt in 1996 and look at him now - did they need to go on talent shows? Nope!
Saara is more Sam Bailey-esque kind of singer - good but forgettable
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The only ones that are marketable are 5AM and that will be two albums that are some what commercially successful at best
Matt Terry could have a successful winner's single and maybe an xmas album for middle aged housewives and grannies but he won't be a chart topping success like Bieber or Drake Emily could also have a successful winner's single but will be forgotten about next year, I can see her having some sort of acting/panto career in Scotland though, maybe UK wide if she's lucky Saara might have some success in Finland if that's the thing they like over there but she's a flop waiting to happen in the UK |
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A lot of her original stuff is far more current and risky than XF is showing- No fear is incredible and sounds very current/different- She''s not just a belting balladeer and I sense that Simon can see a way to market her- And if not, always ESC 2018
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I think 5AM show the most potential if they win I think they would be the safest bet for syco
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I think 5AM show the most potential if they win I think they would be the safest bet for syco
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Saara is not marketable in the pop world - sorry Saara fans, it is the truth
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I think 5AM show the most potential if they win I think they would be the safest bet for syco
They're also the ones who will do everything they're told and be easy to mould |
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The problem is for older acts (as in 25+) although they're not old in the real music world, Syco are only interested in bubble gum, disposable kiddy pop and so they don't stand sa chance.
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A lot of her original stuff is far more current and risky than XF is showing- No fear is incredible and sounds very current/different- She''s not just a belting balladeer and I sense that Simon can see a way to market her- And if not, always ESC 2018
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Even if Saara loses to Matt in the final, she'll have done extremely well. I do think Matt will probably win. I'm not bothered anyway. Either a Saara or Matt win for me.
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There's only one tiny problem with Syco being able to market 5AM: they really cannot sing, they can't dance that well, their image is one of a bunch of 'trying-too-hard' schoolboys, and they aren't exactly good-looking.
You can work on some of these things if the band justify it, but to expect Simon to fix ALL of them? It's surely the end for them? |
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There's only one tiny problem with Syco being able to market 5AM: they really cannot sing, they can't dance that well, their image is one of a bunch of 'trying-too-hard' schoolboys, and they aren't exactly good-looking.
You can work on some of these things if the band justify it, but to expect Simon to fix ALL of them? It's surely the end for them? |
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I think Madonna started in her mid 20s
Imelda May Warren Haynes The Stones Rush ................... Just a few random ones I know, but this program annoys me because it propagates the massive lie that there is only one route and that is the one that the likes of the Cowell use. It's lazy, it's backwards and as we saw when artists started using the internet to get themselves out there, ultimately it will collapse. |
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I absolutely love the phrase 'He's been thrown under a fleet of buses!', but yeah, Simon has been criticising Matt for weeks and giving praise where it simply isn't warranted for others, so I'm not sure how he (as the show's big boss) can be hoping for a Matt win. I don't think negative psychology works.
At the risk of bringing Virtuoso out-of his burrow, the only thing that would seem to make sense (given that Saara likely won't have a career post X Factor UK as demonstrated by the fact that she's a veteran of these shows and is famous in Europe but still isn't a star), is that Simon wants Matt to come *second* in-order to take the pressure off him and give Simon's company time to nurture him. Mind you I normally don't believe conspiracy theories so who knows. ?! |
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Can't argue with you their blondie - they are deffo the most marketable and we have lack of boy bands now One D have gone their separate ways!
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I still think from the word go they wanted a male winner this year and they made no bones about it.
Hence the overpraising of Matt and 5am, they didn't want another female in the crowded X factor market and males generally don't happen for the act post show. It's also the main reason Caitlin was axed at judges houses as she would have romped to victory as well, Emily wasn't seen as winning material so was less of a thread. Despite all that they may well get another female winner |
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