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Old 04-12-2016, 13:46
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That picture made me gurn with happiness uncontrollably.

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Old 04-12-2016, 13:54
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There's an ancient symbiotic relationship between man and beer. Think about those ad campaigns by charities who want to dig water wells in Africa. Water harbouring parasites and diseases has always been problem for man. Making beer with it kills those bugs and pathogens. Beer saves man!! Man makes beer in wondrous varieties. Man farms beer!!

Beer and man lived in perfect harmony for millennia except for two problems. (1) Chemical brewing. (2) Religion. The biggest problem of these is religion. Banning beer on religious grounds is a bad move.
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Old 04-12-2016, 17:42
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Do you think this po-faced approach helped pen any of Deep Purples greatest hits?

Do you think he drove that V8 sensibly?
Deep Purple were a heavy drinking band, and you can get away with it when you're young, but as you get older things change.

I cant compete with my younger self now, and wouldn't want to.
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:30
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It's not good for you.
Not even Guiness?
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:48
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This thread makes perfect sense. It's actually one of the more intelligent questions, far more intelligent than most of the other crap I'm seeing in General Discussion.
Agreed. There are far too many people with nothing to add that insist on chipping in with their two cents anyway (which is the approximate value it brings to a discussion).

For those who are brilliant at missing the point, the question is about evolution; why would humans have developed a penchant for consuming something that is ultimately damaging, given that we have evolved an acute disgust for most harmful things?

The answer, for one thing, is that alcohol isn't particularly damaging. Eating putrid flesh could kill you outright, whereas even a badly fermented fruit is unlikely to finish you off. The feeling of drunkenness is enough for most animals to avoid a repeat unless they're really hungry, and it's almost impossible to develop an addiction to it in the jungle. And, like boiling the kettle to make tea, brewing beer has allowed humans to stave off water-borne diseases for centuries, so you could argue that beer is good for you, as long as it's low-alcohol and consumed in moderation.
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:13
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There's an ancient symbiotic relationship between man and beer. Think about those ad campaigns by charities who want to dig water wells in Africa. Water harbouring parasites and diseases has always been problem for man. Making beer with it kills those bugs and pathogens. Beer saves man!! Man makes beer in wondrous varieties. Man farms beer!!

Beer and man lived in perfect harmony for millennia except for two problems. (1) Chemical brewing. (2) Religion. The biggest problem of these is religion. Banning beer on religious grounds is a bad move.
Beer saves man Man would dehydrate after drinking alcohol for a lengthy period of time, water keeps people alive (clean, bug-free water of course). I'm not sure beer would be useful for those thirsty African children, although they'd be so blotto they wouldn't care any more.

It reminds me of a t-shirt my friend used to wear "Avoid hangovers, stay drunk!"

I preferred the other one he had:

I don't have a drinking problem.
I drink, I get drunk, I fall down
No problem

I got drunk (a rare occurrence) this weekend. I forgot the joy of hangovers, especially older-aged ones
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:20
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Did children drink beer in the middle ages?

In short, yes.
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:29
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Well this has been a very educational thread as it made me google the history of beer.
The oldest evidence of beer is from Iran in the 5th Century before christ
Egypt and ancient Mesopotamia have written evidence of beer....
5,000 years ago the brewing of european beer was dominated by women. I think there's your answer Aenima, women created it to make life better
When you're drunk you think everything is better, the difficulty is in remaining drunk so that it always seems that way
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:45
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When you're drunk you think everything is better, the difficulty is in remaining drunk so that it always seems that way
The hidden sub text in my post was, of course, with all the men pissed and comatose the women could have a bit of peace and quiet Thusly life was improved

but don't tell Aenima
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:51
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I swear this is a Homer or Bender line.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:00
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Guinness isn't beer
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:31
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Agreed. There are far too many people with nothing to add that insist on chipping in with their two cents anyway (which is the approximate value it brings to a discussion).

For those who are brilliant at missing the point, the question is about evolution; why would humans have developed a penchant for consuming something that is ultimately damaging, given that we have evolved an acute disgust for most harmful things?

The answer, for one thing, is that alcohol isn't particularly damaging. Eating putrid flesh could kill you outright, whereas even a badly fermented fruit is unlikely to finish you off. The feeling of drunkenness is enough for most animals to avoid a repeat unless they're really hungry, and it's almost impossible to develop an addiction to it in the jungle. And, like boiling the kettle to make tea, brewing beer has allowed humans to stave off water-borne diseases for centuries, so you could argue that beer is good for you, as long as it's low-alcohol and consumed in moderation.
I read an interesting article in Modern Drunkard magazine years ago which was positing something along the lines of the difference in culture between East and West being all to do with methods of making water drinkable- in the West we made beer, in the East they made tea, and they each developed their own rituals and traditions. Not sure how *true* it is in a scientific sense, but it was certainly food (or drink) for thought.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:39
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But beer isn't so bad.

Hmmm.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:50
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Beer saves man Man would dehydrate after drinking alcohol for a lengthy period of time, water keeps people alive (clean, bug-free water of course). I'm not sure beer would be useful for those thirsty African children, although they'd be so blotto they wouldn't care any more.

It reminds me of a t-shirt my friend used to wear "Avoid hangovers, stay drunk!"

I preferred the other one he had:

I don't have a drinking problem.
I drink, I get drunk, I fall down
No problem

I got drunk (a rare occurrence) this weekend. I forgot the joy of hangovers, especially older-aged ones

I quite enjoy some of my hangovers, the ones where I'm just sleepy and want to eat loads. The ones where I google 'can you die from a hangover', however...
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Old 06-12-2016, 10:40
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Did beer evolve around mankind so that we'd breed more beer and facilitate it's survival as a species?

Otherwise, it makes no sense.
Because everything good is bad (for you) and everything bad is good (for you).

So are we here for a long time (by exercising, not drinking, smoking, eating unhealthy food, taking drugs) or for good time. The choice is ours. Personally, I don't want to need somebody to wipe my arse every time (home care) I have a poo and need a Zimmerframe frame and/or wheelchair/mobility scooter just to move around.

I'd rather have a shorter and more interesting life, rather than a longer and boring life, personally.

YMMV.
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:28
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There's an ancient symbiotic relationship between man and beer. Think about those ad campaigns by charities who want to dig water wells in Africa. Water harbouring parasites and diseases has always been problem for man. Making beer with it kills those bugs and pathogens. Beer saves man!! Man makes beer in wondrous varieties. Man farms beer!!

Beer and man lived in perfect harmony for millennia except for two problems. (1) Chemical brewing. (2) Religion. The biggest problem of these is religion. Banning beer on religious grounds is a bad move.
No. Banning beer on any grounds is a bad move. Hiccup,burp. Half the fun on DS is from drunk posting.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:05
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The term "beer" usually includes ales, stouts and lagers, surely? I must admit that I'm not the greatest fan of Guinness myself, and on a personal level I might not consider the majority of mass produced lagers worthy of the term, but on a purely tecnical level I'd have thought it qualifies.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:30
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Beer is one of your five a day.
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Old 06-12-2016, 14:20
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Beer is one of your five a day.
It is my five a day.
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Old 06-12-2016, 15:49
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It's a stout, which is a kind of beer. So it is

It's also very nice
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Old 06-12-2016, 21:08
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i don't normally drink at home, but I got myself a box of Classic Ales from work, 6 bottle in a box and i just had a bottle of hobgoblin.
Very nice as well.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:15
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Mackeson


"We are Britons
And Britons all drink mead
You will never, ever change us,
Beer, indeed!"

Let's face it, reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol and I'm not averse to getting some blood into my alcohol stream.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:34
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Mackeson


"We are Britons
And Britons all drink mead
You will never, ever change us,
Beer, indeed!"

Let's face it, reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol and I'm not averse to getting some blood into my alcohol stream.
My Nana used to love a Mackeson. "Get us a can o' Macky", she'd say, and send one of us to the shop. I suppose in those days when a 10-year-old walked into the off-licence for some sweets "and a can o' Macky, please" common sense prevailed. Can you imagine the Daily Mail headline and the subsequent derision on DS if that was reported today?
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:48
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You've ALL caught too much sensible.

This thread is about as rock n roll as a twiglet without the marmite.

Edit: Apart from you planets, that was interesting
I thought my post was interesting
You were talking about man's connection with beer and I was pointing out how essential beer and brewing was from roman times to the victorian era due to sterliziation by fermentation.
Beer was the staple drink for centuries.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:36
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I love beer, more than my desire to lose weight so therefore, I'll always be a chubster, but a chubster with a jolly attitude.
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