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Old 04-12-2016, 08:00
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*Possible spoilers about her exit below.


I really, really hope that all the rumours about her and Roxy's exit turn out to be a massive red herring.

I find the idea of her dying in such a way (drowning) really upsetting! Ronnie has had such a hard life, she was sexually abused by her Dad, he took her baby away, and then mentally manipulated her for years. After all her heartache and pain, loosing Danielle and James I think it's horrible that now that she has found happiness that she is could potentially be killed off in such a manner.

I know Ronnie hasn't been perfect over the years and her imitating Archie phase was not great, not to mentioning her accidentally getting Fatboy killed, I still don't want to see someone who has been such a tragic character die as soon as they achieve happiness.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:57
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Iv been wondering if they hatch a plan to run off with Amy and whatever the baby is called and that the pic of them jumping off the wall is them fleeing

Or maybe thats what they intend and it goes wrong.

I think killing them would be a mistake
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:06
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I think killing off Roxy is a mistake because the character has a lot of mileage left. But I'm not too fussed about Ronnie's upcoming death (if she's being killed off). Ronnie needs her comeuppance for Carl and Fatboy's deaths but she needs to go to prison or die because she does not deserve a 'happy ending'.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:01
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We know now she is being killed off though . Glenda back for the funerals , and jack still in the square .
And it will be that awful swimming pool death. As I have said in other threads, the producer hates their characters. I am very surprised he's being allowed to get away with such a ridiculous story for 2 big characters. Which is why I firmly believe he is bad for the show and won't be there come summer. Mark my words
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:24
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I think killing off Roxy is a mistake because the character has a lot of mileage left. But I'm not too fussed about Ronnie's upcoming death (if she's being killed off). Ronnie needs her comeuppance for Carl and Fatboy's deaths but she needs to go to prison or die because she does not deserve a 'happy ending'.
Roxy? really? she has always been the most boring of the two. They have had the best part of a decade to do something interesting with her or let her develop and if she was not now leaving I suspect she would spend another few years on the square the repeating the same old patterns as she has always done.

So Ronnie does not deserve a happy ending in your opinion? Wasn't Carl White a violent thug that tried to rape her and she killed him in self defence? Given her childhood it's understandable she would react angrily and violently. I agree crushing the body in a car crusher was OTT but it's not so different to The Jordache family burying a body under the patio or when the Slater sisters conspired to dispose of Trevors body when Little Mo thought she had killed him.

As for Fatboy, that was indirectly Ronnie's fault, while she did put things in motion, it was Claudette that placed Fatboy in harms way and was outright responsible for his death.
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Old 04-12-2016, 16:14
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I'd be fine with Ronnie staying but I'm ****ing sick of Roxy. I'm glad she's going to be killed off as she just goes round in circles.
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:04
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Roxy is a rubbish character so I don't mind her dying but having Ronnie locked up in jail would make more sense than killing her off. If EastEnders is still on in 10 years (not likely) she could have made a very interesting return.
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:28
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I find it a shame both are being killed, especially in such a lame way. Both characters have created a lot of drama during their time on Eastenders, and deserve a much bigger exit. It reminds me a bit if when Viv and Terry got killed off in Emmerdale, both big characters, and got a pretty poor exit.
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:51
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I find it a shame both are being killed, especially in such a lame way. Both characters have created a lot of drama during their time on Eastenders, and deserve a much bigger exit. It reminds me a bit if when Viv and Terry got killed off in Emmerdale, both big characters, and got a pretty poor exit.
Viv and Terry on Emmerdale was absolutely criminal! Especially Viv! At least Terry got to have a "hero's death" as he tried to save Viv who simply just fell asleep on the sofa shortly before the house caught fire.

Deena Payne had been in Emmerdale for 18 years and Viv was such a classic and iconic character (love or loath her) she was a staple of the village.

It was probably the worst exit I have ever seen for such long term, well established character.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:46
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Viv and Terry on Emmerdale was absolutely criminal! Especially Viv! At least Terry got to have a "hero's death" as he tried to save Viv who simply just fell asleep on the sofa shortly before the house caught fire.

Deena Payne had been in Emmerdale for 18 years and Viv was such a classic and iconic character (love or loath her) she was a staple of the village.

It was probably the worst exit I have ever seen for such long term, well established character.
Until maybe now. I try to step back and thing we don't have all the facts and this will be better than it appears, but Ronnie, in particular, could be written out in a better, more spectacular or hard hitting storyline than this. This is comical and why would the EP do this? Kill off 2 big characters of this era in a funny, rather crap way and his first "big" exit. Just seems weird!
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:53
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Death is the only way Ronnie should leave the show.

Roxy on the other hand is pretty harmless so death does seem unnecessary. However, she is an utterly spent character (and she has been for about 8 years) so her exit is long overdue.
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Old 05-12-2016, 13:07
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Until maybe now. I try to step back and thing we don't have all the facts and this will be better than it appears, but Ronnie, in particular, could be written out in a better, more spectacular or hard hitting storyline than this. This is comical and why would the EP do this? Kill off 2 big characters of this era in a funny, rather crap way and his first "big" exit. Just seems weird!
While I do think this exit for Ronnie and Roxy is completely wrong I have to say I don't think the scenes will be comical or funny. Roxy drowning and then Ronnie drowning as she tries to save her sounds like it will be very dark and not in the least funny.

I hope this ending for them is a red herring.
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Old 05-12-2016, 13:21
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Ronnie already had a huge exit in 2011. It's not like she's never had one before. There's only so many times they can write out the same characters before death becomes the only original idea. Sharon's exits in 1995 and 2006 were hardly explosive. She just got into a taxi and left. Roxy doesn't even deserve a black cab exit in my opinion. Not when you compare what she's done in the show to what someone like Sharon or indeed Ronnie have contributed.
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Old 05-12-2016, 14:11
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Didn't Roxy almost drown when Sean left or am I remembering it wrong?
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:40
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I think its a big mistake killing either of them off. They will be a big loss to the show. It would be better if they both left for a few years with the option to return.
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:46
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I think killing off Roxy is a mistake because the character has a lot of mileage left. But I'm not too fussed about Ronnie's upcoming death (if she's being killed off). Ronnie needs her comeuppance for Carl and Fatboy's deaths but she needs to go to prison or die because she does not deserve a 'happy ending'.
I quite agree. Roxy is proving to be a solid character after her attanptef rape. She should stay and just Ronnie should die (or that bully for a fiancée with her)!
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Old 06-12-2016, 00:29
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Ronnie already had a huge exit in 2011. It's not like she's never had one before. There's only so many times they can write out the same characters before death becomes the only original idea. Sharon's exits in 1995 and 2006 were hardly explosive. She just got into a taxi and left. Roxy doesn't even deserve a black cab exit in my opinion. Not when you compare what she's done in the show to what someone like Sharon or indeed Ronnie have contributed.
They were different. The actors chose to go. Ronnie and Roxy were supposed axed for a spectacular storyline; that was the interview we got! You can't go on record stating these things then give a rubbish exit. They are also exiting on New years eve/ day which is again the night the audience usually expects spectacular. If the EP doesn't deliver a great storyline exit; he's already signing his own "exit" as it has been hyped up so much and because he axed such a well known pairing. If he screws it up, he's a goner!
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Old 06-12-2016, 00:35
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Ronnie don't deserve no beauty and the beast ending with Jack.
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Old 06-12-2016, 00:36
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I think it's wrong killing them both off - because Roxie's death would quite literally send Ronnie over the edge (although based on rumours, this is exactly what happens). After Danielle and James' deaths, only Matthew's or Roxie's death could be the worst thing they could do to Ronnie, so it's a shame we can't see how that will all play out.

But Roxie has been crap for years. If she isn't chasing her sister's fella she's drunk somewhere and being a bad mother.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:47
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Ronnie don't deserve no beauty and the beast ending with Jack.
I don't think people are annoyed she is not running off into the sunset with Jack; they annoyed her "ending" lacks imagination and quite frankly is not fitting for a character like her. This is a soap. It is about drama, awards and great stories! Ronnie is not a mass murderer villain and is a complex character, which provides ample of storyline opportunities for writers to write something dramatic, unusual, unpredictable. And some satirical, dark comedy scene of her drowning in a wedding dress trying to save her sister is not something I see winning awards, talked about or an ending that apparently was "an amazing storyline for the sisters" that warranted them being axed. Given Sam's relationship with the BBC (at least my understanding was she had a good relationship with them and was approached with the initial role), I would have thought that wouldn't be a good move for them axing her then sending her off in a crap exit given the publicity she has bought them through Ronnie and Roxy's entry (which helped he show at a time it was low), the Danielle story which bought a lot of publicity even if not universally well received, but she has been a character that is well known. This is not an axing of a lesser known character poorly received by the public or a mass murderer who has come to the end of a reign of terror needing to be killed off! And poor Roxy (Rita) just seems a casualty
in all this and my understanding was to create a great sister exit to be remembered!
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:53
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I think it's wrong killing them both off - because Roxie's death would quite literally send Ronnie over the edge (although based on rumours, this is exactly what happens). After Danielle and James' deaths, only Matthew's or Roxie's death could be the worst thing they could do to Ronnie, so it's a shame we can't see how that will all play out.

But Roxie has been crap for years. If she isn't chasing her sister's fella she's drunk somewhere and being a bad mother.
But wouldn't that be better and more fitting for Ronnie. Her character sent over the edge in grief and say needing to be sectioned!
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Old 06-12-2016, 06:16
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Love to See Charlie Cotton back for a short While
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Old 06-12-2016, 06:59
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Wasn't he axed? Why would he return after that? If anything, Matthew will be handed over off screen. I suppose they can unaxe under a new producer but he was hardly a major character.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:34
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We know now she is being killed off though . Glenda back for the funerals , and jack still in the square .
And it will be that awful swimming pool death. As I have said in other threads, the producer hates their characters. I am very surprised he's being allowed to get away with such a ridiculous story for 2 big characters. Which is why I firmly believe he is bad for the show and won't be there come summer. Mark my words
No we don't it is still all based on rumour and speculation - as the OP said all that has been 'leaked' could be a Red Herring to throw us off the real departure.

Considering the improvement he has made over DTC final ears I find that hard to believe. And considering they have just recruited Oliver Kent as head of Drama it appears the BBC have faith in him as he will be able to concentrate all his efforts on making EE the success that it is whilst Kent acts a go-between between SOC and BBC
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:18
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They were different. The actors chose to go. Ronnie and Roxy were supposed axed for a spectacular storyline; that was the interview we got! You can't go on record stating these things then give a rubbish exit. They are also exiting on New years eve/ day which is again the night the audience usually expects spectacular. If the EP doesn't deliver a great storyline exit; he's already signing his own "exit" as it has been hyped up so much and because he axed such a well known pairing. If he screws it up, he's a goner!
But it hasn't been hyped up. The BBC has barely said anything other than issue the standard "amazing exit" guff and they certainly haven't said they're definitely being killed off. All the speculation and "hype" has come from the media, and particularly "The Sun".

I'd imagine a fair proportion of the casual audience don't even know they're leaving, let alone be aware of the The Sun's speculation.
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