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Old 04-12-2016, 18:08
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Blondie X is right - sometimes mollycoddling does more harm than good. And in the scenario you've given, I'd rather hear the truth than someone beating around the bush.
You only have to see the reaction of some of the tone deaf horrors when they hear they're useless for the first time in their lives. Their parents have given them false hope and that's actually far more cruel than a reality check from an early age.
I'd rather someone told me I was crap than let me mug myself off on national tv
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:11
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I'm not sure why you're surprised to see threads about XF alumni on the XF forum. You're not going to find anything similar elsewhere, because with the exception of AI (and to a far lesser degree BGT) other shows don't produce successful acts. That said, Louisa is hardly a "diva" with only 3 singles under her belt. And Fleur simply doesn't have the capacity on any level to warrant the distinction.
What an absolute load on nonsense.
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:29
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Blondie X is right - sometimes mollycoddling does more harm than good. And in the scenario you've given, I'd rather hear the truth than someone beating around the bush.
But the truth is we aren't talking about terrible singers. We're talking about people who consistently sing in key every week (for the most part) and some of whom perform extremely difficult songs. It's not as black and white as saying they're terrible, because that's not the truth. In these scenarios, it's best to talk about what you liked and what you feel needed improving.
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:42
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^^ This, were not talking about Honey G, Reggie n Bollie and jedward.

The girls mentioned in this thread all have a singing talent and/or performing talent/Dancing/Rapping. They all have something to offer in the music industry.
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:48
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What an absolute load on nonsense.
So in context, a ringing endorsement.

But the truth is we aren't talking about terrible singers. We're talking about people who consistently sing in key every week (for the most part) and some of whom perform extremely difficult songs. It's not as black and white as saying they're terrible, because that's not the truth. In these scenarios, it's best to talk about what you liked and what you feel needed improving.
Well, that's debatable. XF has a long history of feeble acts overstaying their welcome. It doesn't follow that they're competent simply because they find themselves on the live shows.
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:58
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So in context, a ringing endorsement.

Well, that's debatable. XF has a long history of feeble acts overstaying their welcome. It doesn't follow that they're competent simply because they find themselves on the live shows.
I mean, Wagner, Rylan etc for sure are not up there as music idols. I can see why people would say they're terrible. But there's a limit. People say horrible things like they hope they die. Someone said they wish that Honey G had been blown up on this forum. That's completely horrible and rude.
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:00
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Yeah that is so disgusting i literally dont understand the mentality of some FM's here, its a bit weird that you can hate a contestant that much! Because theyre trying to better their life, if you work and work hard and hustle your ass off trying to make it I dont begrudge anyone of that, most of the contestants on XF have talent and have the right to find out how far they can take it
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:04
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I mean, Wagner, Rylan etc for sure are not up there as music idols. I can see why people would say they're terrible. But there's a limit. People say horrible things like they hope they die. Someone said they wish that Honey G had been blown up on this forum. That's completely horrible and rude.
Every year one or two contestants get death threats from nut cases on the internet, but unfortunately that will always be the case when you have millions using social media.
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:06
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Every year one or two contestants get death threats from nut cases on the internet, but unfortunately that will always be the case when you have millions using social media.
I mean on here though, last week. Not on social media. Either way, it's not right. I think if you're letting someone on TV make you that angry that you'll completely lose your dignity and be horrible, then it's pretty much the act on the show who's winning.
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:09
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I mean on here though, last week. Not on social media. Either way, it's not right. I think if you're letting someone on TV make you that angry that you'll completely lose your dignity and be horrible, then it's pretty much the act on the show who's winning.
In agreement with you on this.
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:12
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^^ This, were not talking about Honey G, Reggie n Bollie and jedward.

The girls mentioned in this thread all have a singing talent and/or performing talent/Dancing/Rapping. They all have something to offer in the music industry.
This is a contradiction to your earlier post in this thread though saying if you like an act you should be able to and whether an act is good or not is subjective and not fact . What if the people who voted for them think in their opinion honey g , reggie and bollie and jedward are better acts than fleur in their eyes
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:13
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Yeah that is so disgusting i literally dont understand the mentality of some FM's here, its a bit weird that you can hate a contestant that much! Because theyre trying to better their life, if you work and work hard and hustle your ass off trying to make it I dont begrudge anyone of that, most of the contestants on XF have talent and have the right to find out how far they can take it
The facts on that comment Eva is that someone started a thread saying 'Did Honey G get bombed by Lee Nelson' and I made a comment like 'if only the thread title was literal'

Everyone realised it wasn't a serious comment but one FM chose to deliberately pretend to take it seriously just to try and bait, despite it being very obvious to anyone it was a quip.

So that's the reality of the so called 'death threat' on here -

I know we've had our ups and downs on here but you know I'm not that sort of poster
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:15
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Well then that's down to them isnt it i was giving examples of people I personally think are less talented than the people the OP mentioned in the post, but I didnt say anything nasty about them!! Nor did I call anyone out for liking them just an opinion, those were the 3 that came to mind.
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:17
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The facts onn that comment Eva is that someone started a thread saying 'Did Honey G get bombed by Lee Nelson' and I made a comment like 'if only the thread title was literal'

Everyone realised it wasn't a serious comment but one FM chose to deliberately pretend to take it seriously just to try and bait, despite it being very obvious to anyone it was a quip.

So that's the reality of the so called 'death threat' on here -
I never said death threat. I said literally what you just said. Joking or otherwise, that's what you said. I didn't even know it was you until you just said it was you so I had no intention of directing the comment at you. Apologies if you feel affronted, wasn't my intention at all.

I'm not looking for a fight here. Other people started arguing about Fleur, Louisa etc.

I was just saying that we should be as constructive and kind to everyone as we can be. Hope you've not been offended. Wasn't meant to be directed you at all
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:17
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The facts on that comment Eva is that someone started a thread saying 'Did Honey G get bombed by Lee Nelson' and I made a comment like 'if only the thread title was literal'

Everyone realised it wasn't a serious comment but one FM chose to deliberately pretend to take it seriously just to try and bait, despite it being very obvious to anyone it was a quip.

So that's the reality of the so called 'death threat' on here -

I know we've had our ups and downs on here but you know I'm not that sort of poster
Blondie I know your'e not and youre fine I enjoy your posts 90% of the time I often agree with your comments and you are one of the fairer ones and actually post constructively regarding Fleur or any other XF contestant, I enjoy debating with you and we do have fun most of the time haha!! There was another comment regarding Honey G I have seen which wasnt anything to do with you, theres been two comments about her being bombed or killed or whatever, I wasnt talking about you btw I was referring to the other FM
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:24
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Well then that's down to them isnt it i was giving examples of people I personally think are less talented than the people the OP mentioned in the post, but I didnt say anything nasty about them!! Nor did I call anyone out for liking them just an opinion, those were the 3 that came to mind.
No but like you said your opinion of them is not fact
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:25
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Blondie I know your'e not and youre fine I enjoy your posts 90% of the time I often agree with your comments and you are one of the fairer ones and actually post constructively regarding Fleur or any other XF contestant, I enjoy debating with you and we do have fun most of the time haha!! There was another comment regarding Honey G I have seen which wasnt anything to do with you, theres been two comments about her being bombed or killed or whatever, I wasnt talking about you btw I was referring to the other FM
It wasn't aimed at you Eva but another FM who was talking about my comment. The majority of my posts are blatantly taking the p*ss so the thought that anyone would take them seriously is a bit

You know me and the 2 boys love a bit of banter about XF - it's never serious but sometimes there isn't anything constructive to say about this shambles
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:27
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Oh yeah I know, its always a banter bus whenever you're around lol I do enjoy posting here, it can get heated but you know thats the aim of debate I suppose!!
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:28
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No but like you said your opinion of them is not fact
Thats exactly what I said yeah I'm aware of that, Like I said I'm giving my opinion on the 3 people I find aren't as talented, i'm sure you have people you want to add so feel free
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:14
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I don't get it personally, but that's probably because I'm more into other styles and genres that I don't get involved in the Diva wars so much.

I can appreciate the good Diva acts that appear on the show, but I'm not like most of the public that will vote for any old Diva act just because they're a Diva act as there's been loads of terrible Diva singers on this show over the years that have gone really far, and in some cases even won it.

I know we all have our biases towards certain types of Music, but I never understand the massive hype for Diva singers on these shows with the odd exception.

The ones that I never felt had quality to them were Sam Bailey, Louisa, and Fleur if she counts as a Diva.
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