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Old 06-12-2016, 00:32
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I loved Gavin and Stacey.

My favourite character was Stacey.

My favourite scene was when Gavin and Stacey were in the chemist and Stacey has a standoff with Natalie Lewis.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:42
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So by that logic we are all jealous of Corden and you are jealous of Cowell, Ant'n'Dec, the idiots from the likes of The Only Way is Essex, Jamie Oliver, Gregg Wallace, Paul "made-up surname" Hollywood....
No, I resent them because I don't recognise what they do as involving 'talent' and between them they've done terrible damage to British culture. Do keep up.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:46
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So the Americans love him (I had heard of the Tonys by the way, but the irony was lost). I am glad about that. Would they like to keep him on a permanent basis?

I wouldn't be jealous of them, I promise.
No, but you would be envious - which is the appropriate word you don't seem to be familiar with.. A bit like the way you so clearly had no idea what a Tony is but are now desperately backtracking on!!
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:56
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All part of the pathetic need to drag people down which the UK so suffers from. The man has an OBE and a Best Actor Tony but there are still idiots saying he's talentless over here.
I agree, It's the same with Ricky Gervaise. People don't like someone, so everything they've ever done automatically becomes rubbish.
Sports fans seem to have more sense. Even if they don't like someone who has done well in their particular sport, most will agree that the person is obviously talented.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:39
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Did you do that in a time machine - Fat Friends didn't air until late 2000!

I love Gavin & Stacey, though I've never liked Smithy, and if I watched it again now I'd probably like him even less due to my dislike of James Corden. So it's not just you, OP!
Was it. I was well out
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:50
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I only watched it this year and must admit I loved it. Nessa was sheer brilliance. And naming the families West, Shipman & Sutcliffe tickled me
With a line that they said 'they had no secrets'
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:51
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Spot on Dr Z.
Corden is a conceited, arrogant **** who for some strange reason has "lucked out" with his career based on what?...mixing with the "right" media lovies at the right time and being a fat b.......!!
Very offensive.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:52
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No, I resent them because I don't recognise what they do as involving 'talent' and between them they've done terrible damage to British culture. Do keep up.
And loud Essex boy impressions, along with rants and boorishness enhances british culture does it?

Why are those you list less talented than Corden? They are as successful in their own fields but you have taken a decision to not like them. That is your prerogative but it is pretty hypocritical.

I am also happy if anyone thinks I really didn't know what a Tony was. I would actually be prouder not to know. Luvvies backslapping each other for their skill at pretending to be someone else. I think Black Adder had it right about actors.
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Old 06-12-2016, 15:00
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So the Americans love him (I had heard of the Tonys by the way, but the irony was lost). I am glad about that. Would they like to keep him on a permanent basis?

I wouldn't be jealous of them, I promise.
Irony, sure.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:35
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While Smithy was obviously written as a funnier character anyway, I do find it quite strange that Matthew Horne has never hit the same heights as James Corden. Gavin wasn't a comedy character but Matthew Horne is a good enough actor to have had a good career post Gavin and Stacey
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:53
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While Smithy was obviously written as a funnier character anyway, I do find it quite strange that Matthew Horne has never hit the same heights as James Corden. Gavin wasn't a comedy character but Matthew Horne is a good enough actor to have had a good career post Gavin and Stacey
Well, he's not exactly starving in some squalid garret, after regular roles in Bad Education and Agatha Raisin, and the Catherine Tate tour. The reason that Corden has had the more conspicuous success is largely due to being the more prolific writer. Horne simply doesn't have the credits in that department for people to see him as anything more than an actor where Corden has garnered a reputation as a creative force of nature.
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Old 08-12-2016, 02:42
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Well, he's not exactly starving in some squalid garret, after regular roles in Bad Education and Agatha Raisin, and the Catherine Tate tour. The reason that Corden has had the more conspicuous success is largely due to being the more prolific writer. Horne simply doesn't have the credits in that department for people to see him as anything more than an actor where Corden has garnered a reputation as a creative force of nature.
Ruth Jones wrote 95% of G&S yet she is overlooked as well, Corden got lucky thats all, personally I don't think he is all that great a writer, The Wrong Mans was abysmal, a comedy drama that had neither comedy or drama, both him and Boynton wrote a turd that was luck to get a second season.
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:07
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I realised that the first time they visited billericay but I wax into it by then so it didn't matter
There was also the fact that they used to drive from Billericay to Barry in a couple of hours.
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:50
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Ruth Jones wrote 95% of G&S yet she is overlooked as well, Corden got lucky thats all, personally I don't think he is all that great a writer, The Wrong Mans was abysmal, a comedy drama that had neither comedy or drama, both him and Boynton wrote a turd that was luck to get a second season.
Corden's writing skills were ruthlessly exposed in his and Horne's abysmal sketch show

Whilst I think he is good actor, he really is devoid of any kind of natural wit. Everything I've seen him do as himself, like awards shows and the like, always falls flat.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:31
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I had a pretty low opinion of BBC 3 comedies so I avoided the show at first. But then my housemate and I flicked over to an episode randomly one evening (the 'KFC' one) and were instantly in stitches. It was one of those programmes that 'clicked' with us. Being the same age as Gavin and Smithy and from a similar background just made everything very relatable. Usually with British sitcoms that characters are very much 'sit-com characters', however I could believe that these were real people (well not so much Ness) - the same way as I could with The Office and The Royle Family.

I have no real opinion on James Corden but he seems to be good at his job. And I can understand why people don't like Smithy, but I can't understand why whether you like the character or not determines whether you find something funny. David Brent was deliberately a prat, Jim Royle was in many ways a horrible person, even Del Boy was a common criminal who often exploited his own family. If you go through the list of most popular sit-com leads you'll find that many of them are far from perfect individuals and we only like them because we can relate to them in some way.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:43
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Corden's writing skills were ruthlessly exposed in his and Horne's abysmal sketch show

Whilst I think he is good actor, he really is devoid of any kind of natural wit. Everything I've seen him do as himself, like awards shows and the like, always falls flat.
"Ruthless".😆

Was that intentional?
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:15
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"Ruthless".😆

Was that intentional?
Damn. I wish I could say yes. Is a 'Freudian Wit' a thing?
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:16
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Ruth Jones wrote 95% of G&S yet she is overlooked as well, Corden got lucky thats all, personally I don't think he is all that great a writer, The Wrong Mans was abysmal, a comedy drama that had neither comedy or drama, both him and Boynton wrote a turd that was luck to get a second season.
You may not have liked The Wrong Mans but you are very much in the minority. Rotten Tomatoes Critics score 90%, Audience score 96% is the kind of ringing endorsement which is matched by very few shows indeed. I'm not sure how you arrive at such a precise division of labour for the writing of Gavin and Stacey. I'm inclined to doubt that it is anything like as one-sided as you suggest. And, again, I'd hardly say that Ruth Jones has been overlooked with 5 seasons of the wonderful Stella behind her and more to come. Not every performer wants to be a 'star' anyway and Ruth has always favoured the writing and producing side of her career.
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