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Old 05-12-2016, 09:41
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Duh, yourself! The words special and big budget really don't apply. The Christmas Specials were mostly just an extra episode tacked on to the recording schedule for the most recent series. Many of the Morecambe and Wise sketches that people most remember weren't from the Christmas shows at all. As for the rest of the list I defy anyone to pick out an unforgettable moment from a Christmas show. You're citing times when there simply was nothing else to do but watch television on Christmas Day. You could get a million viewers for a testcard. Massive numbers were simply the norm. They don't represent greater quality. Captive audiences mean nothing.
Obviously audiences were higher without the competition from all the trash on satellite and online now. But the Christmas Specials were a bit more than just "an extra episode tacked on to the recording schedule for the most recent series". The popular press would try to get sneak previews of what was going to be on them and then it would be front page news, often which surprise guests were going to be on the show.

I think it was one of those times when ITV knew they would not beat BBC in the ratings. Same as in Scotland on New Year's Eve when STV (and Grampian) always lagged behind BBC Scotland's viewing figures.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:11
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Please name the live action film released in 2013 suitable for the afternoon family spot and likely to garner a bigger audience than "Frozen". No? Well there's your answer then.
Gravity

Saving Mr Banks

Philomena and The 2nd Hobbit film would also qualify, but the've already been shown on TV
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:42
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As these two channels generally have the shows that gain the most viewers, which channel would you prefer to watch on Christmas Day, looking at the schedules below?

BBC1
6am Breakfast
9:00 Cbeebies: The Nutcracker
9:45 Dragon: Legend of the boneknapper dragon
10:00 Christmas Day Service
11:00 Songs of Praise
11:40 BBC News
11:50 FILM: The Croods
1:20 Shaun the Sheep: The Farmers Llamas
1:50 Top of the Pops
2:50 BBC News
3:00 HM The Queen
3:10 FILM: Frozen
4:45 The Great Christmas Bake Off
5:45 Doctor Who
6:45 Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
8:00 Call the Midwife
9:30 EastEnders
10:30 Mrs Brown's Boys
11:00 The best of Tracy Ullman's Show
11:30 BBC News
11:45 On Christmas light
11:50 Would I lie to you at Christmas?
12:20 Have I got a bit more news for you
1:05 Citizen Khan
1:35 FILM: While you were sleeping
3:10 BBC News

ITV:
6am CITV
8:25 Weekend
9:25 Countrywise
9:55 FILM: Despicable Me 2
11:55 FILM: Harry Potter and the Chamber of secrets
3pm HM The Queen
3:10 ITV News
3:25 FILM: The Lion King
4:55 ITV News
5:15You've been framed
5:45 Emmerdale
6:45 Paul O'Grady: For the love of dogs
7:45 ITV News
8:00 Coronation STreet
9:00 Maigret
11:00 FILM: Love Actually
1:30am Nightscreen

Out of the two, I prefer BBC
I take it ITV KNOWS it's actually Christmas DAY???!! What a poor choice of programmes! BBC for me too then.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:44
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Looking at those rather dire BBC/ITV listings other than Doctor Who it'll be Netflix for us.
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Old 05-12-2016, 13:42
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Gosh its like ITV haven't even tried. BBC for me, but only for Dr Who and GBBO. Its a real shame really, I love polishing off Christmas with a cheeseboard in front of the Xmas specials, once we've finished the family rounds. Hopefully some of the sky channels may have more to offer.
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Old 05-12-2016, 15:31
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The BBC for me but only for Doctor Who, Strictly, Call the Midwife and WILTY and all probably live as broadcast.
Although hopefully ITV will repeat O'Grady's Love of Dogs a few days later (a high probability), I may tune into that one from their Christmas Day offerings if they do.
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Old 05-12-2016, 15:44
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As these two channels generally have the shows that gain the most viewers, which channel would you prefer to watch on Christmas Day, looking at the schedules below?

BBC1
6am Breakfast
9:00 Cbeebies: The Nutcracker
9:45 Dragon: Legend of the boneknapper dragon
10:00 Christmas Day Service
11:00 Songs of Praise
11:40 BBC News
11:50 FILM: The Croods
1:20 Shaun the Sheep: The Farmers Llamas
1:50 Top of the Pops
2:50 BBC News
3:00 HM The Queen

3:10 FILM: Frozen
4:45 The Great Christmas Bake Off
5:45 Doctor Who
6:45 Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
8:00 Call the Midwife

9:30 EastEnders
10:30 Mrs Brown's Boys
11:00 The best of Tracy Ullman's Show
11:30 BBC News
11:45 On Christmas light
11:50 Would I lie to you at Christmas?
12:20 Have I got a bit more news for you
1:05 Citizen Khan
1:35 FILM: While you were sleeping
3:10 BBC News

ITV:
6am CITV
8:25 Weekend
9:25 Countrywise
9:55 FILM: Despicable Me 2
11:55 FILM: Harry Potter and the Chamber of secrets
3pm HM The Queen
3:10 ITV News
3:25 FILM: The Lion King
4:55 ITV News
5:15You've been framed
5:45 Emmerdale
6:45 Paul O'Grady: For the love of dogs
7:45 ITV News
8:00 Coronation STreet
9:00 Maigret
11:00 FILM: Love Actually
1:30am Nightscreen

Out of the two, I prefer BBC
I've bolded what we'll probably have on - ED we'll record and watch whilst EE is on, otherwise it's pretty much BBC all the way.

We'll also find The Last Dragonslayer on Sky1 whenever that's on and record it if it clashes.
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Old 05-12-2016, 15:46
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Gravity

Saving Mr Banks

Philomena and The 2nd Hobbit film would also qualify, but the've already been shown on TV
Gravity? You think Gravity is a family film suitable for all from toddlers upward? Well I think that pretty much disqualifies you from any further comment. It's rated 12A for starters so would never be shown in this slot at any time of year.

Saving Mr Banks is being shown at the much more suitable hour of 20.30 on BBC 2, 23rd Dec.
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Old 06-12-2016, 10:37
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Gravity? You think Gravity is a family film suitable for all from toddlers upward? Well I think that pretty much disqualifies you from any further comment. It's rated 12A for starters so would never be shown in this slot at any time of year.

Saving Mr Banks is being shown at the much more suitable hour of 20.30 on BBC 2, 23rd Dec.
I wasn't sure about Gravity, as I hav't seen it, but I suggested it nonetheless

As I have just (this minute) got a listing mag, I've only just discovered that two of my picks are being shown on the Friday before Christmas.

I don't see that that disbars them from being suitable for Xmas day

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Old 06-12-2016, 10:39
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BBC of course.
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Old 06-12-2016, 13:55
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Frozen - should end up as the most watched programme on the day. Then I'll probably watch Bake off and Eastenders and that's it. The BBC missed a great opportunity to vary it a bit more this year and definitely should have split Eastenders into two parts again!
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Old 06-12-2016, 14:23
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Gravity? You think Gravity is a family film suitable for all from toddlers upward? Well I think that pretty much disqualifies you from any further comment. It's rated 12A for starters so would never be shown in this slot at any time of year..
I seem to remember a shot of George or Sandra looking through the head of one of their colleagues after he's been struck by debris.

Makes anyone feel slightly unsettled.
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Old 06-12-2016, 15:08
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I simply cannot bring myself to watch any programme that is interrupted by adverts any more. So ITV is out as far as watching it "live". Probably record Maigret though, or watch it on catch-up.
Otherwise it will be nothing in the afternoon except eating, drinking and trying to avoid any rows with inlaws etc. Then Bake Off, Dr Who, Strictly, Call the Midwife (my wife's a fan) and finally Eastenders. Then I might even push the boat out and pay for a recent movie, it is Christmas after all.
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Old 06-12-2016, 15:27
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Good grief. When I think back to my younger days - Morecambe and Wise Christmas Special, The Two Ronnies, always a good film or two to watch.

The list is pretty dire if you ask me. Thank goodness we have been saving some progs on our PVRs and thank goodness for Netflix. I think I will give 90% of the list a complete miss.

Anyone know if Maigret is new or a repeat?
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Old 06-12-2016, 15:41
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Good grief. When I think back to my younger days - Morecambe and Wise Christmas Special, The Two Ronnies, always a good film or two to watch.

The list is pretty dire if you ask me. Thank goodness we have been saving some progs on our PVRs and thank goodness for Netflix. I think I will give 90% of the list a complete miss.

Anyone know if Maigret is new or a repeat?
Yes, and things like The Royle Family, Only Fools and Horses etc. There don't seem to be any comedy "specials" these days. Unless you count Mrs Brown's boys, but that's a bit "marmite" in terms of it's following.
To be fair, I don't think they can do much about the films. Nearly everyone has more access to movies these days, there's not the thrill there used to be in showing something from 12/18 months ago. Some posters are saying "Frozen" is going to attract a big audience. But are there any kids left who haven't seen it at least three times already, most will have the DVD.
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Old 06-12-2016, 15:58
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Yes, and things like The Royle Family, Only Fools and Horses etc. There don't seem to be any comedy "specials" these days. Unless you count Mrs Brown's boys, but that's a bit "marmite" in terms of it's following.
To be fair, I don't think they can do much about the films. Nearly everyone has more access to movies these days, there's not the thrill there used to be in showing something from 12/18 months ago. Some posters are saying "Frozen" is going to attract a big audience. But are there any kids left who haven't seen it at least three times already, most will have the DVD.
Perhaps it speaks more about the lack of any real comedy greats in the world of entertainment these days. When you look back at those Christmas Specials and yes of course The Royle Family, Only Fools and Horses I can still watch them and laugh out loud.

God save me from the likes of Eastenders, or Call the Midwife. And 'Bake Off' what's that all about? It's a programme about baking a cake I want to eat them not watch them being baked. I can do that in my own kitchen.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:17
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I'm not sure why people think Netflix is a big TV saviour. Most of their offerings are repeats or awful. I barely watch it and I sure won't be watching it over christmas. Though looking through the christmas TV mag and it doesn't seem like I'll be watching much of anything on television. A handful of christmas specials and that's about all I'll be bothering with.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:20
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Perhaps it speaks more about the lack of any real comedy greats in the world of entertainment these days. When you look back at those Christmas Specials and yes of course The Royle Family, Only Fools and Horses I can still watch them and laugh out loud.

God save me from the likes of Eastenders, or Call the Midwife. And 'Bake Off' what's that all about? It's a programme about baking a cake I want to eat them not watch them being baked. I can do that in my own kitchen.
Bake Off is the only reality show special that will be worth watching live. It's our final chance to see the superior BBC version of the show before it's butchered by C4 in 2017.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:38
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Good grief. When I think back to my younger days - Morecambe and Wise Christmas Special, The Two Ronnies, always a good film or two to watch.

The list is pretty dire if you ask me. Thank goodness we have been saving some progs on our PVRs and thank goodness for Netflix. I think I will give 90% of the list a complete miss.

Anyone know if Maigret is new or a repeat?
Maigret's Dead Man is a new story, to be followed by another two next year.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:42
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I'm not sure why people think Netflix is a big TV saviour. Most of their offerings are repeats or awful. I barely watch it and I sure won't be watching it over christmas. Though looking through the christmas TV mag and it doesn't seem like I'll be watching much of anything on television. A handful of christmas specials and that's about all I'll be bothering with.
You're not watching the 'right' Netflix. Try another country's version.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:42
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Maigret's Dead Man is a new story, to be followed by another two next year.
Well that at least is a plus from an otherwise appalling list of programmes.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:44
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I'm not sure why people think Netflix is a big TV saviour. Most of their offerings are repeats or awful. I barely watch it and I sure won't be watching it over christmas. T
You're right there. I used my free month to rewatch the revived Dr Who series from the beginning and then cancelled.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:45
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You're not watching the 'right' Netflix. Try another country's version.
Can't any more. They've got VPN detectors.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:45
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Bake Off is the only reality show special that will be worth watching live. It's our final chance to see the superior BBC version of the show before it's butchered by C4 in 2017.
They're baking cakes for goodness sake. How is that entertainment? What next 'Hoover off', 'dust off'?
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:45
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Well that at least is a plus from an otherwise appalling list of programmes.
Well I agree Christmas Day could be better, but Christmas Eve is the strongest day.

But this years Christmas schedule is better than last year, especially in the post Queen slot. So hopefully next year will be even better now ITV is under a new creative boss.
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