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Muslims told to leave Christmas market
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mattlamb
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Haha! I wouldn't call 170 chalets 'a few dodgy stalls' but that's just me Rudesheim has 120. Looking at pictures of both markets side-by-side, you wouldn't know which one was Bath and which was Rudesheim, except from - obviously - the architecture.

From their web page it seems they also have an international feel to their market, including " some Finnish specialities on the Drosselgasse or a taste of the Far East in the Mongolian marquee." so it wouldn't be unusual for people of different nationalities to have a stall there, although I doubt any of them are simply there to promote a religion of any kind rather than a business, be it items or food.

Had the Muslims in question been serving food from a particular nation or representing a shop or restaurant, I wonder if they would have been ejected from the market. Having a stall just to promote an ideology doesn't seem to be what the market would be about anyway.”

Which is the whole point!!!!!
Christmas arose because of the Christian religion. So why would you open a stall on a Christmas market, preaching about the Muslim religion, peacefully or otherwise?

It;'s called taking the piss.
RobinOfLoxley
04-12-2016
Prosyletizers!

Splitters
Will_Bennetts
04-12-2016
I think a lot of people are missing the point here . The ammidyhas community are tolerant and perfectly content to live amongs other religions so the actions by a majority of people here could really affect community relations and even drive people to radicalisation
stoatie
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Armi:
“We're not talking about a few dodgy stalls in Bath. The Christmas markets in that part of Germany are more closely related to the Christian festival.”

Because Jesus famously LOVED people making money out of religion, didn't he?
Terry N
04-12-2016
Missed a trick there, a Muslim information stand & kebabs would have went down very well.
starry_rune
04-12-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwjw...ature=youtu.be
D_Mcd4
04-12-2016
I got a choccy advent calendar at one of these sacred Christmas markets. My wife bought assorted shiny things.
Will_Bennetts
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by starry_rune:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwjw...ature=youtu.be”

And that has what to do with this exactly ?
blueblade
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Will_Bennetts:
“http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/03/muslim...stand-6298753/

This is pretty shocking . Funny how Muslims are always being painted as the intolerant ones yet locals act like this . I could understand if it was an intolerant Salafi asshole who preached that non Muslims and liberal Muslims would go to hell . However this group are one of the Muslim sects that are all about peace .
Thus could actually inflame relations in Germany and possibly lead to radicalisation”

Hmmmm - they should have let this one go. Be the "bigger person" on tolerance - as an example to use when the muslims get intolerant.
shaddler
04-12-2016
Sounds like he was just trying to integrate. I thought that's what people wanted? You can't win sometimes.
Grafenwalder
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Muslims don;t believe in Christmas though, so how would a stall informing people about the Muslim religion fit in within a Christmas market?

It is like having a stall about how to rear pigs on a farm, within a vegetarian market.”

Neither do Buddhists but they have stalls from Mongolia and Thailand, both of which are predominantly Buddhist.
jjwales
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Which is the whole point!!!!!
Christmas arose because of the Christian religion. So why would you open a stall on a Christmas market, preaching about the Muslim religion, peacefully or otherwise?

It;'s called taking the piss.”

That does seem to be what you're doing, yes. Not nice.
jjwales
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Armi:
“I might set up a Christian information stall outside a mosque during Ramadan.

But then people would say I was being deliberately provocative, and trying to wind up the Muslims.

But Muslims wouldn't set up a Muslim information stall at a Christmas market just to wind people up. Nah, course they wouldn't.”

Sounds like you're the one trying to wind people up.
Elyan
05-12-2016
As our western European societies become more multi-cultural, so they become more divided.
spkx
05-12-2016
The article uses the word 'allegedly' no fewer than three times but does not, at any point, reveal who exactly has alleged that the incident happened. The closest it gets is quoting an anonymous 'furious' resident.

Googling reveals the same article appearing on other websites but absolutely none seem to have any factual information whatsoever.

The Express quote the same one person - although they say he's "outraged" - and The Sun again quote the same one person, this time as being "fuming".

Journalism in 2016.
noodkleopatra
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Which is the whole point!!!!!
Christmas arose because of the Christian religion. So why would you open a stall on a Christmas market, preaching about the Muslim religion, peacefully or otherwise?

It;'s called taking the piss.”

It's a lost battle trying to raise the obvious point that Christmas celebrations aren't owned by Christians, nor can Christians really claim to have started it. But nonetheless, some will say it is 'taking the piss'.

Look, I've got no religious affiliation, but I still enjoy putting up the tree. One minute people are being damned for not appropriating, the next they are damned for doing it. You may not like it, but (a) if you want everyone to assimilate to some degree, then that's surely festivals and stalls too, (b) if the issue is proselytising a certain religion, well then you're not advocating freedom of religion equally: ban proselytising for all religions or for none.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.
1Mickey
05-12-2016
I don't see a problem as long as you can open up a stool next to him with evidence that Islam is false.
jjwales
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by 1Mickey:
“I don't see a problem as long as you can open up a stool next to him with evidence that Islam is false.”

How? Evidence plays no part in religious faith. In any case such an attempt would truly be provocative.
noodkleopatra
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by 1Mickey:
“I don't see a problem as long as you can open up a stool next to him with evidence that Islam is false.”

You'd be far better with a "All Religion is Absolute Bollocks" stall. Let's face it, there's bugger all difference between Islam and Christianity apart from a few storyline changes.
1Mickey
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“How? Evidence plays no part in religious faith. In any case such an attempt would truly be provocative.”

I think you've been mislead. Islam is a religion that claims to be based in history.
Sport1
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by 1Mickey:
“I think you've been mislead. Islam is a religion that claims to be based in history.”

As do most (if not all) religions.
1Mickey
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by noodkleopatra:
“You'd be far better with a "All Religion is Absolute Bollocks" stall. Let's face it, there's bugger all difference between Islam and Christianity apart from a few storyline changes.”

You could say that about anything in history really,
jjwales
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by 1Mickey:
“I think you've been mislead. Islam is a religion that claims to be based in history.”

Well, all religions do that. As an expression of faith rather than evidence.
1Mickey
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sport1:
“As do most (if not all) religions.”

I never said they didn't. My point was that, contrary to the claim i was replying to, the writers of the scriptures they believe in obviously thought evidence was important because the wrote about checkable times, places and customs.
1Mickey
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Well, all religions do that. As an expression of faith rather than evidence.”

I'm not sure that even makes sense.
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