Originally Posted by DinkyDoobie:
“Yes i'm pretty certain that people of a particular faith and people of no faith don't really care for people of faith/other faiths and the particular sect of the people engaged in proselytizing doesn't change the fact that practically nobody invites mormons into their homes and would prefer to not be bothered by them unless they were engaged in some sort of proselytizing of their own but no doubt some people are susceptible to their offerings.”
Nothing to do with the topic.
You're fabricating claims for your own convenience.
Originally Posted by DinkyDoobie:
“I'm not, you're defending the bully. You don't go to a market and set up a stall telling all the people there that you don't believe in markets.
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Yes you are defending bullies.
Again, do you know anything about the Muslim sect you're commenting on because it would appear not.
Again and most importantly, the question rejectionists don't seem able to answer, what has any of this pernicious farce got to do with Christ's teachings?
Originally Posted by scrilla:
“" Muslims ‘forced to leave Christmas market after setting up Islam information stand’ "
They weren't. The article says as much later: "it was because of the ‘danger potential due to the violent public reaction’."
"Members of the Ahmadiyya Islamic community had set up an information booth on Islam at the Rüdesheim town hall simply to make people better understand the religion."
Well that doesn't seem like the especially provocative actions of trouble makers. Most of the population engages with Christmas, a minority following Christian beliefs and the majority over-spending, feasting, drinking, relaxing and enjoying a break from work. As most people 'do' Christmas, Muslims wanting to integrate with the wider community may well choose to set up at a Christmas market i.e. a commercial event, not a religion ceremony. Not to oppose any religious belief but to inform anyone interested (note by choice - not by force) about their own and to show that they're happy to be present at a Christmas event (despite tabloid sensationalism suggesting otherwise) and to interact with the wider population.
Of course this is offensive, provocative, insulting and perhaps even violent (!) to some posters here...
"Furious residents complained that the stand was not fitting with the spirit of Christmas"
Perhaps the residents might pause for a second and notice that the usual frenzy of spending and gluttony may not be not fitting with the spirit of Christmas either if Christmas is supposed to be a Christian phenomenon. Or maybe they suffer from only a selective outrage.
"One furious resident said: ‘This does not belong at a Christmas market!’ "
Perhaps those Muslims really did need to sell a few eastern nibbles!
"They then allegedly ordered them to leave the market after telling them that it was because of the ‘danger potential due to the violent public reaction’.
But mayor of Rüdesheim, Volker Mosler, has hit out at the complaints and said: ‘I am absolutely amazed there is so much intolerance.’
While resident Eric Rehwald said a ‘Christmas market of the nations’ should be willing to accept representatives of other religions."
So, a Christmas market "of the nations" is threatened by a potentially violent indigenous public who want Muslims to be kept away from everyone else.”
Indeed. Not the best example of Christmas spirit and Christian religious tolerance.
Originally Posted by stoatie:
“Dunno. Unless it's some charitable stuff then I'll go with Jesus saying you can't worship God and Mammon simultaneously, meaning any enterprise that's just for profit (like a non-charity Christmas market stall) is pretty much NOT what the little baby Jesus would have wanted to happen in His name, especially not for His birthday!
Come ON. The best bit's where He throws the money-lenders out of the temple, right? Using Christmas to make money for anything other than charity HAS to be an abomination, surely?
... pretty sure this is how it USED to work, anyway...”
No, it's fine to ignore how any of it used to and is still supposed to work and use any old convenient rewrite to attack Muslims.
I've been told it's now... what's sauce for the goose etc?
Obviously Christ got religious tolerance and the "turn the other cheek" bits completely wrong.
Originally Posted by hufflestuff:
“Which of us are you having a go at on this particular occasion?”
The three FM posts I quoted and referred to.
If you don't have any reply to my points please don't use an uncivil defensive comment instead.
and no tinsel 
and not even a little santa gnome in the corner 
outrage, not fitting with the spirit of Christmas etc...
