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Old 05-12-2016, 07:51
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... The victim had a name. Nobody has bothered to mention it or her so far. They'd rather get stuck in to the same old arguments about immigration instead. Those threads are two a penny - so why the need for another?

It looks like a tasteless excuse to simply have another go at migrants - particularly when nobody can be arsed to even mention the name of the poor girl whose murder they are riding on the back of.
So come on then, Disgusted of Dulwich, what is it?
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:52
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A terrible crime, but it's not going to be made any better by people stoking up anti-immigrant feelings over it.
So best to keep quiet about it eh?
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:56
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So best to keep quiet about it eh?
Isn't that is what happened in Rotherham,?.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:03
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Isn't that is what happened in Rotherham,?.
Yep,
Jo Cox gets murdered by a madman - It's all the fault of the "populist" and "far right" political movements.
This girl gets raped and murdered - Oh lets not blame the open door welcome all uncontrolled migrant/assylum policy
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:09
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What a load of tosh, are migrants not allowed to kill just like people do all over the world. Murder happens every day, a migrant murdering someone is no different to all the other murders that happen in this country by white British males.
No, murder is illegal. See, in reaching so hard in this post to conjure up an equality issue you've made yourself look a bit odd.

I find it galling that Merkel will be running for and winning the upcoming election, seemingly without having to answer questions about the consequences of her reckless statement re: refugees.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:12
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No, murder is illegal. See, in reaching so hard in this post to conjure up an equality issue you've made yourself look a bit odd.

I find it galling that Merkel will be running for and winning the upcoming election, seemingly without having to answer questions about the consequences of her reckless statement re: refugees.
BIB, bit early to call that one don't you think?
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:12
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So best to keep quiet about it eh?
Some years ago, murders that happened abroad would not have been newsworthy for the British press.

Today however there's an unequenchable desire by the media to demonise immigrants so they will scour the globe looking for immigrant crime to validate their readers opinions on immigrants.

Other murders get less attention

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...gue-found-dead
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:14
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So, Disgusted of Dulwich, what is it?
I've said all I've got to say in this thread but feel free to bait me with alliteration elsewhere if you like.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:16
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I guess the family in Freiburg who took him in and where he "lived without incident" really didn't know much about him at all.

Which is perhaps food for thought for Lily Allen, Bob Geldof, Nicola Sturgeon, and all the posters who have offered to take Syrian "children" into their homes (but haven't quite got around to...)
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:33
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BIB, bit early to call that one don't you think?
She has zero competition and rode out her approval ratings taking a big hit. AfG will take a chunk of votes but not enough to stop Merkel forming another coalition.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:42
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Well the only way to stop this sort of thing happening would be a complete and total ban on immigration. Are the posters blaming immigration for this crime prepared to call for this I wonder?
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:42
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A terrible crime, but it's not going to be made any better by people stoking up anti-immigrant feelings over it.
Ssshhhh Community cohesion.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:58
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Some years ago, murders that happened abroad would not have been newsworthy for the British press.

Today however there's an unequenchable desire by the media to demonise immigrants so they will scour the globe looking for immigrant crime to validate their readers opinions on immigrants.

Other murders get less attention

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...gue-found-dead
Nope, most/all european news is regularly available to all of us, beit TV, internet or printed press. So we should supress reports of migrant related crime?
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:24
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I've said all I've got to say in this thread but feel free to bait me with alliteration elsewhere if you like.
A girl - who you've yet to name, despite that supposedly being your main point of distress - got raped and murdered, yet now you personally look to derive some kind of persecution capital from it.

Coming over all morally superior and crying 'bait', imo you merely look self-obsessed and fake.

Maybe this time you can stop thinking about yourself long enough to actually give the girl a name ...
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:27
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Can't wait for trevgo and aurichie to come wading in with their pearls of wisdom as to why we are all massive racists.
Immigrant kills person...and??

Murder is a fact of life.

It's plainly true that this particular victim would not have died had the immigrant been "kept out", but every murder is a packet of weird coincidences and happenstance.

I'm afraid there is a nasty racial undertone to this (and many DS threads) whereby an example is seized upon as the norm. You only have to look at the disgusting views expressed here around the closure of the Calais jungle to get that.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:31
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Nope, most/all european news is regularly available to all of us, beit TV, internet or printed press. So we should supress reports of migrant related crime?
No, but I don't see how him being a migrant, or Germany's immigration policy, is relevant.
Some migrants commit crimes; most don't. Some Germans commit crimes; most don't.

Unless you have literally zero immigration, then you will have some crime committed by migrants because migrants are humans like the rest of us.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:37
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Nope, most/all european news is regularly available to all of us, beit TV, internet or printed press. So we should supress reports of migrant related crime?
Go back 10 or 15 years a murder in Germany wouldn't have been in the mainstream printed press in this country.

Even today, a muder in this country might get less coverage than a murder committed abroad by an immigrant.

I'm not asking for anything to be suppressed at all. I'm just observing that readers of The Mail and The Express enjoy reading stories involving migrants committing murders.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:38
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That poor girl got over 'ethnically enriched'. I blame her parents.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:39
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No, but I don't see how him being a migrant, or Germany's immigration policy, is relevant.
Some migrants commit crimes; most don't. Some Germans commit crimes; most don't.

Unless you have literally zero immigration, then you will have some crime committed by migrants because migrants are humans like the rest of us.
If there's zero migration no doubt many will find someone else to hate.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:45
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If there's zero migration no doubt many will find someone else to hate.
There's a theory that if we all woke up the same colour tomorrow, without religion, we'd rapidly come to hate those with freckles, or red hair.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:46
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Its an awful crime, but one swallow does not a summer make.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:50
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Yep,
Jo Cox gets murdered by a madman - It's all the fault of the "populist" and "far right" political movements.
This girl gets raped and murdered - Oh lets not blame the open door welcome all uncontrolled migrant/assylum policy
Nope. The man who killed Cox is the guilty one, nobody else.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:51
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I wonder how many Germans have raped and murdered women.
Clearly the answer is to boot Germans out of Germany.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:01
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I can't see how the open door policy is being blamed.

This guy could have applied to enter the country 'legally' - it would seem that there's nothing in his past that suggests he's capable of murder. The family who he was residing with hadn't noticed anything untoward about him. Has it been suggested that this was a religiously/politically motivated crime?

Disturbed and dangerous individuals come in all shapes, sizes and colours - this is a dreadful tragedy for the family and I don't know how one gets over losing a child in such horrible circumstances. I don't see how blaming Merkel and the open door policy helps - doesn't it simply rack up tensions amongst the population and perfectly innocent refugees/immigrants?
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:05
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Go back 10 or 15 years a murder in Germany wouldn't have been in the mainstream printed press in this country.

Even today, a muder in this country might get less coverage than a murder committed abroad by an immigrant.

I'm not asking for anything to be suppressed at all. I'm just observing that readers of The Mail and The Express enjoy reading stories involving migrants committing murders.
Europe didn't throw open it's borders to all and sundry 10-15 years ago.
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