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Old 05-12-2016, 16:09
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A few?
It is not a few.
The numbers are absolutely astonishing.

And it is not whataboutery either.
The thread topic is men who assault girls after travelling thousands of miles.
We are discussing that....but you no longer seem to be quite as keen on the discussion.
OK then let's do this side tracking squirrel hunt, what are the astonishing numbers, how many men have been convicted of travelling to Thailand to rape girls and how does this astonishing figure compare to Muslims currently in jail for rape on this country?
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:39
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OK then let's do this side tracking squirrel hunt, what are the astonishing numbers, how many men have been convicted of travelling to Thailand to rape girls and how does this astonishing figure compare to Muslims currently in jail for rape on this country?
Convictions?
You will have to wait for recent UK law to kick in.
Before we do the numbers......why do you think these men are travelling to Thailand? What do you think a Sex Tourist is? LOL.

Why is it a "side tracking squirrel hunt"? As I have just explained to you.....this is the thread topic.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:49
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OK then let's do this side tracking squirrel hunt, what are the astonishing numbers, how many men have been convicted of travelling to Thailand to rape girls and how does this astonishing figure compare to Muslims currently in jail for rape on this country?
I'm not sure about this but I don't think women have a preference for who rapes or abuses them.

If we must go travel down this ghoulish route then you need to realise that there are non Muslims and Muslims convicted of rape, of whom a high % will be British by birth, why I wonder, do you think that rape by one is more preferable to another is a mystery.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:53
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This. There is a huge culture clash here that many do not wish to address. We are seeing the problems now in many countries throughout Europe. I have experienced it myself when I was younger, Asian men who felt it was fine to be abusive to me as I had the audacity to merely pass them in the street (and no I was never enticingly dressed) The sad fact is men from certain cultures definitely have problems with westernised females. Until we tackle this we will see more Colognes and Rotherham's. I imagine we will be waiting a long time for this to change.
Every country these ignorant savages have been admitted to in any numbers has created complete chaos and has shown their complete indiffernce or respect for the host country's laws and beliefs.
You have only to look at what has happened in Sweden following the admitance of large number of male muslims-large parts of the country all but 'no go areas' as these ignorant,ungrateful savages show their complete contempt for their host's kindness.
The sooner the 'luvies' who support accepting these awful people into Western Countries realise they have absolutely no intention of following our laws or customs then the sooner we can start stopping the influx.
I fear it is already too late in many areas-including our own country.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:53
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just reported on Sky news that a young British woman has been stabbed and killed in Lapland by her Czech boyfriend - don't know if he was Muslim or not.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:58
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Pretty tragic thing to happen but if true then one thing doesn't sit right with me about this and that is her parents collected money for migrants at her funeral... i mean the intention is good but it just doesn't seem right.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:20
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There's no crime so horrible that it won't prevent people using it to their own ends, eh?
And what precisely was wrong with my post in that list?
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:23
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I wonder if there would even be a thread where you could ask such a stupid question if the culprit turned out to be a fellow countryman rather than an immigrant.

Somehow I doubt it
And what was wrong with my post, the one with no mention of the culprit being an immigrant?
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:26
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This. There is a huge culture clash here that many do not wish to address. We are seeing the problems now in many countries throughout Europe. I have experienced it myself when I was younger, Asian men who felt it was fine to be abusive to me as I had the audacity to merely pass them in the street (and no I was never enticingly dressed) The sad fact is men from certain cultures definitely have problems with westernised females. Until we tackle this we will see more Colognes and Rotherham's. I imagine we will be waiting a long time for this to change.
Yes and until we get to the bottom of child abuse in this country that has become evident in the Catholic church, social services care homes, show business and now it's revealed in sport despicable crimes will continue.

It is not just the muslim culture that is 'rapey' - I don't think that we as a 'christian country' can say that we are not without our own problems. I expect some of these priests, show bizzies ans sports coaches emigrated too and carried out their own disgusting abuse in other countries.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:27
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When dylann roof shot 9 people it was evidence of inherent racism in white america that needed to be tackled but when perhaps a migrants kills someone we mustn't generalise.

Y'know, because some migrants don't have degenerate beliefs about westerners and we don't need to tackle it because it's racist... or something.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:29
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OK then let's do this side tracking squirrel hunt, what are the astonishing numbers, how many men have been convicted of travelling to Thailand to rape girls and how does this astonishing figure compare to Muslims currently in jail for rape on this country?
Approximately 6% of the UK male population has paid for sex abroad according to surveys.

247,900 UK tourists travel to Thailand each year. (Thailand government figures)
60% are male = 148,740
70% of male tourists are sex tourists = 104,118 (Thailand police estimate)
40% of prostitutes in Thailand are below the age of 18 (The Children's. Rights Protection Center in Thailand). Under Thailand's law and UK law their customers are guilty of rape.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:31
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Pretty tragic thing to happen but if true then one thing doesn't sit right with me about this and that is her parents collected money for migrants at her funeral... i mean the intention is good but it just doesn't seem right.
Well if you read the first report, the victim worked at a refugee centre so it was obviously a subject close to her heart. It could even be possible she knew the teenage assailant, though that is far from clear yet.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:39
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What evidence?

The large numbers of British men travelling to Asia to assault and rape girls and children.
There's a 20yr sentence for that so how many have been locked up?
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:41
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A terrible crime, but it's not going to be made any better by people stoking up anti-immigrant feelings over it.
Agree. When something terrible happens it's more terrible to try and use it to your advantage.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:42
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Approximately 6% of the UK male population has paid for sex abroad according to surveys.

247,900 UK tourists travel to Thailand each year. (Thailand government figures)
60% are male = 148,740
70% of male tourists are sex tourists = 104,118 (Thailand police estimate)
40% of prostitutes in Thailand are below the age of 18 (The Children's. Rights Protection Center in Thailand). Under Thailand's law and UK law their customers are guilty of rape.
See this shows your agenda, the way you forensically pick apart the Muslim/uk prison/rape statistics right down to the minuscule variance of age/likelihood of pleading guilty yet you post this nonsense? 70% of males Brits that travel to Thailand do so for sex tourism and 40% of those are child molesters?!?!?!?

HOW MANY BRITISH ARE CURRENTLY IN JAIL IN THAILAND FOR RAPE? simple question.
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:44
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Approximately 6% of the UK male population has paid for sex abroad according to surveys.

247,900 UK tourists travel to Thailand each year. (Thailand government figures)
60% are male = 148,740
70% of male tourists are sex tourists = 104,118 (Thailand police estimate)
40% of prostitutes in Thailand are below the age of 18 (The Children's. Rights Protection Center in Thailand). Under Thailand's law and UK law their customers are guilty of rape.
I concur with your methodology.
But the first figure may be much higher than that.
Wiki says that UK Tourists alone is 1 Million. Then there are business travellers.....
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Old 05-12-2016, 17:51
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Surely the neutral reader sees this..

Actual UK government stats for Muslims currently incarcerated for rape........ liberals response....... what age, what socioeconomic background, how many converted after crime....... what about blacks in America, what about the astronomical numbers of British men raping in Thailand??????

Ok liberal, How many are in prison in Thailand for rape? What is this astronomical figure you speak of? ............liberals response..... well 70% of all men in Thailand are sex tourists and 40% of them rape children!!!!!

Any wonder you guys have lost all credibility.
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:02
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Surely the neutral reader sees this..

Actual UK government stats for Muslims currently incarcerated for rape........ liberals response....... what age, what socioeconomic background, how many converted after crime....... what about blacks in America, what about the astronomical numbers of British men raping in Thailand??????

Ok liberal, How many are in prison in Thailand for rape? What is this astronomical figure you speak of? ............liberals response..... well 70% of all men in Thailand are sex tourists and 40% of them rape children!!!!!

Any wonder you guys have lost all credibility.
Comparing the number of people in prison for a crime that is prosecuted with the number in prison for a crime to which a blind eye is turned is pointless. The reason why sex tourism is booming and there are so many child prostitutes is because the Thialand and UK laws are not enforced.
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:06
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70% of males Brits that travel to Thailand do so for sex tourism and 40% of those are child molesters?!?!?!?
You catch on real quick.

This forum had a massive thread on Rotherham.
Is that correct gallag?
And almost all of the thread discussing child abuse in Rotherham was posted before anyone was convicted.
Is that correct gallag?

So here is the question for you.
I want you to imagine that Mrs Merton is asking you this question.

So gallag.....what exactly was it that attracted huge numbers of Men to choose the Child Sex Capital of the World when they were choosing a Sex Tourism destination???
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:07
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Comparing the number of people in prison for a crime that is prosecuted with the number in prison for a crime to which a blind eye is turned is pointless. The reason why sex tourism is booming and there are so many child prostitutes is because the Thialand and UK laws are not enforced.
So speculation Trump's hard fact? Ok, most Muslim countries top the rape charts, can't prove it because many Muslim countries don't keep stats or even recognise rape as a crime, often punishing the victim, the numbers are astronomical and dwarf the Thailand numbers you extrapolate by many factors. Of course a with the blind eye and lack of reporting this is pure speculation but I am sure you will agree!
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:11
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You catch on real quick.

This forum had a massive thread on Rotherham.
Is that correct gallag?
And almost all of the thread discussing child abuse in Rotherham was posted before anyone was convicted.
Is that correct gallag?

So here is the question for you.
I want you to imagine that Mrs Merton is asking you this question.

So gallag.....what exactly was it that attracted huge numbers of Men to choose the Child Sex Capital of the World when they were choosing a Sex Tourism destination???
The only reason men go to Thailand is sex tourism? What about Amsterdam? Same? Or is there possibly other factors that draw people, gotta love the liberal think, all men (white men) that go to Thailand do so to rape, it's fine to group and assume as the accused are not Muslim and are white, don't post actual government statistics that show there is a rape problem within Islam you racist!!!
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:19
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The only reason men go to Thailand is sex tourism?
Are you even following the thread?

70% of Male visitors to Thailand are sex tourists. We are discussing if that is 100,000 British men or 400,000 British men if we take the Wiki figure.

Do you want to answer my question now about their choice of destination.

There must be a reason for choosing the Child Sex Capital of the World.
Think you can figure it out??
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:39
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Are you even following the thread?

70% of Male visitors to Thailand are sex tourists. We are discussing if that is 100,000 British men or 400,000 British men if we take the Wiki figure.

Do you want to answer my question now about their choice of destination.

There must be a reason for choosing the Child Sex Capital of the World.
Think you can figure it out??
Have you anything to support that 70% of all male tourists to Thailand are all sex tourists? 40% of tourists to Thailand are women, I would assume most of which are travelling with a male companion, do they know going by your statistics most of their male companions are their to rape children?
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:52
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So speculation Trump's hard fact? Ok, most Muslim countries top the rape charts, can't prove it because many Muslim countries don't keep stats or even recognise rape as a crime, often punishing the victim, the numbers are astronomical and dwarf the Thailand numbers you extrapolate by many factors. Of course a with the blind eye and lack of reporting this is pure speculation but I am sure you will agree!
The UN does surveys. The Muslim nations do not come top, despite their shame culture and despite their laws. That is not to say some Muslim countries are not abhorrent for example Iran has state sanctioned forced marriages of children often of orphans, Saudi Arabia is infamous for prosecuting rape victims, etc.

But for prevalence of rape countries like Papua New Guinea, Lesotho look far worse, as do Carribean nations, etc.
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:57
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Merkel really has a lot to answer for with her open door policy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html#comments
The immigration issue is massive and has been badly mishandled , but not every immigrant is a rapist or murderer and whilst I find Angela Merkel to be a woman out of her depth in reality and who has made huge errors on the migrant situation I would not lay the rape and murder of someone at her door .
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