Guy I met goes over for the lady boys

Some links to credible sources are required, i remember we had this discussion in another thread but you didn't supply any.

The 70% of male tourists is a Thailand Immigration Bureau, Police Department figure.

Uk visitors to Thailand...... see Wiki.

60% are male and 70% of males are Sex Tourists: Rahab International/Patricia Green.

As Mark_Jones9 has said Patricia Green quoted her source as the Thailand Immigration Bureau, Police Department.

http://www.wouk.org/ministry/rahab_international.php

Why don't you tell us what you think the figures are, and then tell us if your figure is Huge or Freaking Huge?
Or tell us which figures you disagree with.

Well I see in a previous post conviction was the important issue so how many British men are convicted of the crimes you state or is the figure a best guess? If it is a best guess can we also apply best guess to Rotherham?

I can't believe that people on here are using a dreadful crime to score cheap points.

You can guess anything you like.
Are you following this thread?

The huge Rotherham thread ran it's course before anybody was convicted. The thread was discussing the abuse of children. Do you recall that thread?

Just be patient. Ceop have their hands full and have to prioritise Very Dangerous Scumbags over arresting Child Abusers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36429385

Do you look forward to more arrests are you in denial about the crimes we are discussing?
Are you aware that sex with a child is always Rape?

Of course what I fail to understand is that there is an issue with British men treating children as sex objects here and another issue of British men treating children as sex objects in Thailand. The figures for the Thai cases are all believed and quoted as as is, the figures for the British cases are queried as being unproven, supposition and not accurate when quoted. I accept there is a problem in Thailand I accept there is a problem in the UK. In terms of priority one suspects that ensuring our own children are protected in the first instance is paramount as the Thai case can only be dealt with through the vigilance and expertise of the Thai authorities. If we are unable to do it here how on earth can we be expected to do it half a world away and through foreign agencies?

Come on. Surely you've been here long enough to know that that's ALWAYS what happens...

The UK could at least stop known paedophiles from travelling abroad particularly to sex tourist destination countries. UK courts have the power to place travel restrictions on sex offenders but rarely does. The UK lets tens of thousands of known sex offenders travel abroad. There are also some worrying stats like of UK convicted paedophiles who move abroad one in five get jobs where they work with children. Something they would be prohibited from doing in the UK.

The Daily Heil!. How very sixth form of you!.

Bless

Which is part of what I said that we are found wanting, even more so at home. To be honest if they placed a restriction on people travelling abroad would they be subject to human rights cases. Many people on the register of course are not child abusers.
It is up to Thailand to impose restrictions on people in their country, I assume there is information between the UK and Thailand.

Didn't we remove the passports of football thugs stopping them from travelling?

As opposed to right wing credibility; one immigrant in Germany rapes and murders a young woman:

"ALL immigrants are MURDERERS and RAPISTS."

Even her own parents are intelligent enough to take action and counteract the knee jerk response of 'credible' right wingers.

It is an action intended to neutralise the hysterical reaction of newspapers like the Daily Mail and its readers.

It is very much this.

I wander why we don't see headlines like 'Murders in UK reduce in nearly every year since we've had increased EU immigration"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...as-fallen.html

http://www.citizensreportuk.org/repo...olence-uk.html

The UK has a ageing population, maybe the older people do not go out killing each other as much as the youngsters?

All western nations have had falling murder rates for years. Causes have been speculated to be anything from removing lead from petrol, lead acts as a dis-inhibitor to violence, to a decrease in drinking, smoking and drug use in the young, to video games and the internet being leisure activities that results in less people wandering the streets looking for excitement.

Yes but my point is put to those with anti immigrant views who insist mass immigration also means we let in more murders.

If that was the case we wouldn't see an almost exact correlation between increased immigration and a reduction in homicides.

That is a fair point.
The 70% of male tourists are sex tourists is for all male tourists not just UK male tourists. For some countries the gender mix of tourists is over 90% male.

Assuming that the 40% of tourists who are women are all accompanied by one man and that none of those men use prostitutes during their visit to Thailand.

247,900 UK tourists travel to Thailand each year. (Thailand government figures)
40% are female. assuming 40% are men who maybe accompanying a female tourist.
49,580 are men not accompanying a female tourist
34,706. 70% of the men not accompanying a female tourist are likely to be sex tourists. (70% of male tourists are sex tourists Thailand police)

40% of prostitutes in Thailand are below the age of 18 (The Children's. Rights Protection Centre in Thailand). Under Thailand's law and UK law their customers are guilty of rape.

The 40% of prostitutes are below 18 is also a high estimate, other NGOs have a figure of 20%. But as sex tourists are likely to have sex with multiple prostitutes the figure who have sex with children is going to be higher than the percentage of prostitutes who are children.

The scale of the problem looks large in any event.

That is undoubtedly true as the UK has let in EU nationals who are convicted murderers and EU nationals who have murdered people in the UK.

I would expect the murder rate is higher than it would otherwise be. UK nationals convicted of murder are on life license they may not be able to leave the UK, EU nationals who commit murder in their country of origin are often not on any form of monitoring or restrictions by their home country so free to leave and come here. The problem is lack of access to databases and lack of database checking to stop them at the UK border as the UK can legally stop EU immigrants who are serious or recidivist criminals from entering the UK.

you can't be sure what to expect. A larger populous might reduce opportunity to commit homicides.

On that basis cities should have lower murder rates than the countryside.

The UK has the legal power in the EU to stop serious and recidivist EU criminals from entering the UK but has been either unable due to lack of information sharing by other EU nations or negligent due to not checking the database, at doing so effectively. I doubt letting in convicted violent criminals and murders has reduced the UK murder rate.

It's a possibility if looked at a per capita basis.

We did and we do and it is a hot topic in terms of rights.

Your making an assumption that because 40% of prostitutes are under 18 then the UK men must be using them proportionately.
You have to factor in that Thai men are by far the largest users of prostitutes with estimates of 450,000 encounters EVERY DAY. Which dwarfs the tourists usage.
Most tourists will hook up with a bar girl who is supposed to be of legal age.
http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/traditiions.html

Supposed to be but often are not. Prostitutes under 15 years old are however uncommon in tourist aimed bars. If you look at the work of the NGOs to get tourist bars raided or at the periodic police crackdowns and raids of tourist aimed bars and massage parlors you are looking at from 60% to 15% underage. Then there are the prostitutes working the beaches, etc.