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Vegetarians - Vegan's who try to make you feel bad for eating meat
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stoatie
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Gypsophila:
“What justification could there be for killing animals at all when we have no need to?

Do you think it's wrong to harm animals unnecessarily?”

Personally? Yes, I do. But as I already said, as a vegetarian I do still understand the argument for killing animals for food, even though I don't agree with it. It's what we've done since time immemorial, and I'm glad more and more people are deciding not to do it, but that kind of change doesn't happen overnight.
benjamini
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by joshua321:
“Of course I do/don't appreciate it (depending on the meaning); I would much rather people farmed organically, but if it is a choice between non-organic and meat I go with non-organic, because it still has a lower environmental impact and does not keep animals in dreadful conditions.

We also produce a lot more crops than we actually use and throw a good proportion away before it even gets to the supermarket. Grazing land can also be converted into arable land, providing crops that more than fulfil our population's protein requirements.”

Only a fool would not prefer organic farming, it goes without saying. But raping the land as we are continuing to do will have hellish consequences for everyone.
Sustaining a growing population is incredibly problematic and will be increasingly so.
Pink_Smurf
08-12-2016
Militant animal rights activists really believe that all the world will be vegan one day. I can't see it, not in my lifetime anyway. The meat industry is huge and the majority of people eat meat if they can get it. I used to be vegan but I was feeling weak, was underweight and quite frankly didn't enjoy my food. I feel and look much better now. The militant animal rights activists won't change me back to being vegan no matter what they tell me. Many animals eat other animals, it's part of nature and nature can be cruel.
Funk You
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“Militant animal rights activists really believe that all the world will be vegan one day. I can't see it, not in my lifetime anyway. The meat industry is huge and the majority of people eat meat if they can get it. I used to be vegan but I was feeling weak, was underweight and quite frankly didn't enjoy my food. I feel and look much better now. The militant animal rights activists won't change me back to being vegan no matter what they tell me. Many animals eat other animals, it's part of nature and nature can be cruel.”

Thats how I see it too, also man would kill an animal and eat it to survive so what is different now? the animal suffered then and they still do now. Like someone else in the thread said, for the food chain to go on for something to live something has to die in this case meat. Its been an interesting read seeing all the different points of view over 6 pages. I have eaten veggie burgers and veggie curries and other sorts of veggie meals, they tasted nice and the only difference was I farted a lot more I even dated a veggie not long ago, in the end I guess she didn't want my meat (bdum tsshh) so I dont hate on anyone's beliefs I just feel the constant guilt tripping from over the top air headed veggies or vegans is non called for. I dont lecture them about their choice so why lecture me? I'll just carry on eating meat as its my choice. I'd be like you, I wouldn't enjoy my food at all as there is a lot of meat in my diet and switching to being a veggie or vegan would just feel alien and weird to me.
The Amazing
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“Militant animal rights activists really believe that all the world will be vegan one day. I can't see it, not in my lifetime anyway.”

I think within my lifetime lab-grown meat will be indistinguishable from the 'real' thing and will be readily available on shop shelves.
MinnieMinz
08-12-2016
I eat meat, I don't feel guilty about it. More to the point, I don't let anyone else even attempt to guilt trip me regarding it. The farming communities, especially animal based farms are being hit hard enough as it is.
Pumping Iron
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Gypsophila:
“What justification could there be for killing animals at all when we have no need to?

Do you think it's wrong to harm animals unnecessarily?”

It tastes nice. All the justification I need.
bspace
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Gypsophila:
“Do you think it's wrong to harm animals unnecessarily?”

It's not unnecessary, my bacon sandwich is all the justification needed.
MinnieMinz
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by The Amazing:
“I think within my lifetime lab-grown meat will be indistinguishable from the 'real' thing and will be readily available on shop shelves.”

That would solve a lot of issues, but I don't honestly see it happening for a good 20yrs.
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