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So obviously biased tonight
Cosya
04-12-2016
All dancers being shown in Lens lense apart from Rinser. Hmmm wonder who will be going?
BeeBumble
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Cosya:
“All dancers being shown in Lens lense apart from Rinser. Hmmm wonder who will be going?”

They always ask one judge about one dance. Basic maths tells us that with 5 dances and 4 judges that means 1 left out.
Sarah777
04-12-2016
Robert's ballroom week and he was asked to dance a Samba, a week after Danny's perfect Samba. Something doesn't add up.
Skyrah
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Cosya:
“All dancers being shown in Lens lense apart from Rinser. Hmmm wonder who will be going?”

Claudia, Louise & Danny all got positive remarks on Len's Lens expect for Ore
Tejas
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Robert's ballroom week and he was asked to dance a Samba, a week after Danny's perfect Samba. Something doesn't add up.”

I agree with this, it stinks frankly. People keep telling me it doesn't matter that Rob used his last Latin dance this week as it was obvious he was going - but that doesn't really make it right, if anything it makes it sound even worse!
northgirl
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Claudia, Louise & Danny all got positive remarks on Len's Lens expect for Ore ”

Yes and the criticism seemed very harsh as Ore was partly up on toes just not as much as Craig wanted - despite favouritism criticism the odds seemed to be more stacked against him than for him!!
Sarah777
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“I agree with this, it stinks frankly. People keep telling me it doesn't matter that Rob used his last Latin dance this week as it was obvious he was going - but that doesn't really make it right, if anything it makes it sound even worse!”

I know people keep saying 'Let it go', but I believe if you want things to change, you have to fight for it. Just blatant favouritism.
kaycee
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I know people keep saying 'Let it go', but I believe if you want things to change, you have to fight for it. Just blatant favouritism.”

Could it possibly be that Rinder just wasn't as good as the others? Not favouritism at all. I know a lot of people loved him, but he really wasn't that good.
Rhumbatugger
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by northgirl:
“Yes and the criticism seemed very harsh as Ore was partly up on toes just not as much as Craig wanted - despite favouritism criticism the odds seemed to be more stacked against him than for him!!”

Lens lens was all about rationalising the scores tonight. No showing of Danny's poor legs and feet, no showing of Claudia's problem keeping flow, some manufactured guff about how Louisa actually managed to deliver the character of Calamity Jane, which is just so silly I can hardly say it, and yet Ore didn't lift himself off his toes ENOUGH apparantly, and had to be chided.

And nothing for Rinder.

Lot of absolute agenda, and obvious.
Crooked Heart
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“Could it possibly be that Rinder just wasn't as good as the others? Not favouritism at all. I know a lot of people loved him, but he really wasn't that good.”

Yeah, I agree. He reached his natural dancer span then petered out
Mystical123
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Robert's ballroom week and he was asked to dance a Samba, a week after Danny's perfect Samba. Something doesn't add up.”

There has never been a rule that if you dance ballroom one week you have to dance Latin the next.

The depths this forum goes to to find conspiracy theories that just don't add up astonishes me sometimes.
AntoniaA
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“Could it possibly be that Rinder just wasn't as good as the others? Not favouritism at all. I know a lot of people loved him, but he really wasn't that good.”

He certainly wasn't as good as the others and I've seen him dance better. He's lovely, he's done well to get so far but it was time to go.

All the talk of bias, overmarking, undermarking, etc, is RUBBISH! The judges know what they are doing better than us.
tabithakitten
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by AntoniaA:
“He certainly wasn't as good as the others and I've seen him dance better. He's lovely, he's done well to get so far but it was time to go.

All the talk of bias, overmarking, undermarking, etc, is RUBBISH! The judges know what they are doing better than us.”

That's true. The judges know exactly what they're doing. I'm not saying I buy conspiracy theories and that the show is necessarily fixed for one individual or another but if anyone is merrily floating along thinking that any reality show (not just this one) isn't heavily manipulated to one end or another then they are as naive as they would probably think me ridiculously cynical.
flashgirl
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Robert's ballroom week and he was asked to dance a Samba, a week after Danny's perfect Samba. Something doesn't add up.”

You keep repeating this ad nauseum but seem to be completely ignoring the numerous people in various threads who have pointed out to you that the order of the dances is set well in advance. They didn't sit around last Saturday after Danny's 4 tens and go 'I know what'll stitch up the Judge, let's make him samba next week'.

Also much as he seems like a lovely person, he was by far the weakest of the dancers left. It's not exactly the shock of the century that he went home this week.
fayebeatle
05-12-2016
He said on ITT the samba was a collection of the 'greatest hits' moves of all his Strickly Latin dances. He knew he was going.
IvanIV
05-12-2016
I hope you lot will never get anywhere that nuclear button
Gill P
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Robert's ballroom week and he was asked to dance a Samba, a week after Danny's perfect Samba. Something doesn't add up.”

I doubt there is yet another conspiracy. I would think that the couples are told what dance they are doing more than a week ahead. So no-one knew how Danny's samba would turn out, he might have made a hash of it or it might have been just a good dance.
sarasarasara
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Lens lens was all about rationalising the scores tonight. No showing of Danny's poor legs and feet, no showing of Claudia's problem keeping flow, some manufactured guff about how Louisa actually managed to deliver the character of Calamity Jane, which is just so silly I can hardly say it, and yet Ore didn't lift himself off his toes ENOUGH apparantly, and had to be chided.

And nothing for Rinder.

Lot of absolute agenda, and obvious.”

For me Ore's dance was the best of the evening. I have to agree with a few others also in that although I think Rob would and Ore would have ended up bottom two whatever dances they did this week, with so few left in now, I still don't get why Rob couldn't have had a ballroom dance to go out on, I expect it would have been better for him than the dance he was given.
Sarah777
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by flashgirl:
“You keep repeating this ad nauseum but seem to be completely ignoring the numerous people in various threads who have pointed out to you that the order of the dances is set well in advance. They didn't sit around last Saturday after Danny's 4 tens and go 'I know what'll stitch up the Judge, let's make him samba next week'.

Also much as he seems like a lovely person, he was by far the weakest of the dancers left. It's not exactly the shock of the century that he went home this week.”

It's a flawed concept and it should be changed. Just trying to get a fairer a playing field for everyone. What's wrong with that??.
DUHO
05-12-2016
Thought Rinder has been half decent all the way through the series and to be fair to his has toned down the "in your face" profile and became quite likeable the longer he lasted. Unfortunately for him there were 2 or 3 who were always going to be in the final from week one plus the lovely tear gushing Ori who was also pretty good.

Think "the best of the rest" which was were he ended up was a fair reflection for him..
mad_madge_morri
05-12-2016
Yes, they are biased but what can we do? I think though, that at the final when the votes are from the viewers, we will see a different result. But that's not helping the ones who have been voted off will it.
daziechain
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by fayebeatle:
“He said on ITT the samba was a collection of the 'greatest hits' moves of all his Strickly Latin dances. He knew he was going.”

He knew it was time for him to go ... he isn't of the standard of the other four and wasn't improving either. Can't see what the fuss is about, he loved hamming it up and pulling all the faces so a party samba was right up his street. He loved the cha cha and salsa and his best hopes of getting people to vote was to go out there, shake his hips and booty and have fun.
He did amazingly well to have come fifth in a very strong field. May well have been Katya's decision, we've heard before that the pro's choose which dances and it what order. Some have dodged samba too often for it to be a co-incidence.
MaggieMcGee
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Lens lens was all about rationalising the scores tonight. No showing of Danny's poor legs and feet, no showing of Claudia's problem keeping flow, some manufactured guff about how Louisa actually managed to deliver the character of Calamity Jane, which is just so silly I can hardly say it, and yet Ore didn't lift himself off his toes ENOUGH apparantly, and had to be chided.

And nothing for Rinder.

Lot of absolute agenda, and obvious.”

Agree with all of this and then some.

Originally Posted by flashgirl:
“You keep repeating this ad nauseum but seem to be completely ignoring the numerous people in various threads who have pointed out to you that the order of the dances is set well in advance. They didn't sit around last Saturday after Danny's 4 tens and go 'I know what'll stitch up the Judge, let's make him samba next week'.

Also much as he seems like a lovely person, he was by far the weakest of the dancers left. It's not exactly the shock of the century that he went home this week.”

The idea that Rob was the weakest dancer is a clever lie borne from producer manipulation with the judges as its mouthpiece. Aside from Louise - and that's a whole other issue - the remaining three have things about them that make them not good dancers. Ore has a stiff torso which hinders his Latin. Claudia lacks fluidity and, until now, has had little personality on the floor or rapport with AJ, though it looks as though she is changing. Danny is poor at ballroom. There is so much of the technique he has not mastered. The idea that Rob with his burning and flat feet, which made their second appearance the entire series (really?), he had as many good qualities in his dancing as the others.

The conspiracy is not that the order of evictions is orchestrated but who they wish to remain is as is who they want rid.
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