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Will we ever see a beginner in the final again?
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natalian
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Louise has also judged a Prime time dance show ”

Judy Murray has been known to judge a dance competition too
Camis
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“if Ore makes final then yes”

Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Is he really a beginner though?”

Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Well seeing as he didn't go to stage school and studied something normal at Uni, yes. He said his only prior dance training is when he learned a basic dance for his wedding.
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It seems he has forgotten his stint on 'Let's Dance for Comic Relief'.
yellowlabbie
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Louise has also judged a Prime time dance show ”

You have to laugh.
Nina_Blake
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“In interviews she claimed she had no training. Perhaps not formal as her agency CV on just mentions breakdancing.

Going back 2013 Abbey, Sophie and Susanna all did not have much training if any. Maybe Mark Wright in 2014”

‘I used to dance when I was younger and used to go to dance school to do hip-hop and street dance which is massively different to ballroom.

‘I used to freestyle too so the more precise and technical dancing is going to be quite difficult.’

but I suppose if it's dancing as an extracurricular activity as a child (?) it's not quite on the same level as studying it formally in your teens.
Bluebird69
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“ Well last year Katie Derham and Georgia May Foote were both in the final and didn't have any prior training. Ore this year hasn't had prior training and neither has Claudia. Danny has never actually learned dancing outside of basic steps. The musical he was in as an understudy has no dancing in it. Louise is the only one who's had proper dance training.”

BIB: Wicked has no dancing in it? That's unusual, most West End musicals have a fair few chorus numbers in them

I think this subject came up on another thread a couple of weeks ago, and posters who had been to see Wicked said that the understudy role would still have had to take part in ensemble dances, of which there were quite a few. Sure, it's not ballroom and latin dancing, but I can't see how anyone can deny that four years on the West End stage haven't given Danny a huge advantage.

I think my votes will be going to Claudia now, in an effort to get at least one genuine non-ringer into the final
hansue
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, It seems to be heading that way. I'm going to be really fed up.”

If Claudia does go next week, I really don't think that I will bother with the final.
Nina_Blake
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Louise has also judged a Prime time dance show ”

Ah yes, much like our own beloved judges, 3 of which have no relevant experience - and none being able to make an entrance without looking bizarrely awkward.
Christopher D
04-12-2016
I would prefer both Ore and Claudia in the final. They have made more progress as dancers then the other two. Don't think its going to happen sadly.
Berysm
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Louise has also judged a Prime time dance show ”

She has said in an interview she was a trained dancer & that's initially what she was interested in doing, so I don't know if she was bigging it up then because she was going to be a dance show judge, or it's being understated now (not by her just viewers)

But half of those left in are 'beginners' so it's not as if Strictly is dominated by supposed ringers, even now.
Gary Baldi
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“I would prefer both Ore and Claudia in the final. They have made more progress as dancers then the other two. Don't think its going to happen sadly.”

Yes, this would be ideal. Journey stories of 2 non-dancers who become good dancers rather than the 2 professionally trained stage school ringers who were near enough perfect from the start.
mimi dlc
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Camis:
“It seems he has forgotten his stint on 'Let's Dance for Comic Relief'.”

I've just watched that on YouTube.
I think the training for that consisted of three bottles of WKD and Red Bull chaser
penelopesimpson
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“I've just watched that on YouTube.
I think the training for that consisted of three bottles of WKD and Red Bull chaser”

Great post!
aggs
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“In interviews she claimed she had no training. Perhaps not formal as her agency CV on just mentions breakdancing.

Going back 2013 Abbey, Sophie and Susanna all did not have much training if any. Maybe Mark Wright in 2014”

2013 first week leaderboard.
Abbey - top.
Sophie and Susannah - equal third.
yellowlabbie
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
“BIB: Wicked has no dancing in it? That's unusual, most West End musicals have a fair few chorus numbers in them

I think this subject came up on another thread a couple of weeks ago, and posters who had been to see Wicked said that the understudy role would still have had to take part in ensemble dances, of which there were quite a few. Sure, it's not ballroom and latin dancing, but I can't see how anyone can deny that four years on the West End stage haven't given Danny a huge advantage.

I think my votes will be going to Claudia now, in an effort to get at least one genuine non-ringer into the final ”

I haven't voted yet but I might just throw quite a few votes in Claudia's direction next week.
aggs
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“Ah yes, much like our own beloved judges, 3 of which have no relevant experience - and none being able to make an entrance without looking bizarrely awkward.”

And I assume if any of them took up a celeb spot in a Learn to Dance show, it would be commented on?
Scaley_Back
04-12-2016
There is a very easy way to make this fairer and that is to have two sets of scores. 1 for technical and then 1 for artistic. This way, the amateur celeb dancers could gain from their artistic interpretation.

Never happen though, so the answer to the OP is a resounding NO.
Nina_Blake
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“And I assume if any of them took up a celeb spot in a Learn to Dance show, it would be commented on? ”

Of course it would, but people would equally be entitled to comment that dancing in some music videos in the 80s does not a world-class dancer make.

ETA - heck, Anastacia began her career as a dancer, and look where that got her in a dance competition
yellowlabbie
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by hansue:
“If Claudia does go next week, I really don't think that I will bother with the final.”

Well I certainly won't be.
aggs
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“Of course it would, but people would equally be entitled to comment that dancing in some music videos in the 80s does not a world-class dancer make. ”

I'm still Standing is a work of art, darling
postit
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Is he really a beginner though?”

What are you implying? Do you have information to the contrary?
Christopher D
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“2013 first week leaderboard.
Abbey - top.
Sophie and Susannah - equal third.”

So what does not mean they had any previous training. Pretty sure Austin Healy did not and he got a 9 in his first week.
Vodka_Drinka
04-12-2016
Just to clarify I dont want a series full of rubbish Ann Widdecombe types, but I do like to see people learning a new skill from scratch.
Nina_Blake
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I'm still Standing is a work of art, darling ”

Some comments I simply have no response to
Bluebird69
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Just to clarify I dont want a series full of rubbish Ann Widdecombe types, but I do like to see people learning a new skill from scratch.”

Yes, same here. It's hard to be enthusiastic about someone like Danny who started off looking like a professional dancer, and has maintained the same standard. Where's the fun in that?
hansue
04-12-2016
[quote=yellowlabbie;84792781]Well I certainly won't be.[/QUOTE

Its a shame isn't it. I have watched every final since series one and, even if my favourite didn't win, I enjoyed the excitement of it. This year I really couldn't care less who wins out of Ore, Louise or Danny. At least if Claudia is there I can support her.
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