There is no comparing Claudia's previous training to that of Danny and Louise and it is farcical to suggest it is. They started streets ahead of anyone else and that will always be an advantage in a dance show no matter what their fans say.

I would be interested to ask the judges what they think though I doubt we would get an honest answer.

I do agree but I don't mind if they have dance training.

What annoys me though is that the judges go overboard on how these people who have "dance training" how good they are at acting, when they ARE ACTORS or have been to THEATRE/DRAMA SCHOOL and they criticise the others.

Depending on routines of course.

I feel the same when the celebs are complimented on things like ballet moves.

"Oh I loved your grand fromage, dahhhling"

Well, obviously they'll do it well if they've practiced it for years.

See there is another advantage they have over Claudia, their acting skills.

[quote=Nina[B]_Blake;84800474]Well, Danny and Louise both have stage school training, which involves all the things you list Claudia as having trained in but they you know, actually dance and did a hell of a lot of it.

Being in a girl band or in musicals will just consolidate the previous training with invaluable performance experience[/b]...[/QUOTE

If she went to the Italia Conti school then she would, almost certainly, have had training in dance, which if you read their literature, they teach Latin, cha cha, rumba, samba, salsa and even the jive. That only leaves the waltz, quickstep and foxtrot!
So please, don't anyone tell me that she, Danny and Claudia do not have a big advantage!

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Why Claudia?

Okay, she can gaze at the moon from between her own knees and wear her legs as a scarf but I can't see either of them being much of an advantage in the quickstep.

Thank you!

But... I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion about Ore being a ringer because he knows about sports. Ah well.

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I presume they meant Louise.

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"She (Louise), Danny and Claudia" is what they said.

Me thinks someone is clutching at straws

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Yes sorry, I misread it

[quote=tabithakitten;84801806]
Yep, I meant Claudia as well but for different reasons. She is a top Olympic gymnast, like Louis Smith who won a few years back.
I think it is pretty obvious what her attributes are and why she is able to make the transition from gymnastics to dancing so easily. I don't really think I need to spell it out....

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Oh I think you do need to spell it out.

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I definitely don't dispute Claudia will have advantages over someone like Ore, for instance, but I simply wouldnt equate it with extensive dance training.

The advantage Claudia would have from Gymnastics is learning routines which Louis Smith also had when he did Strictly. But she knew nothing about dance technique or moves. She would also be extremely fit.

Oh, I'm not meaning to call him a ringer: my understanding is that ringer is being used for someone with dance training and professional dance experience, and Ore is certainly not that.

I'm just trying to make the point (obviously very badly) that as a beginner in dance he starts with a certain advantage over others who have not had degree-level sports training.

What are you talking about being an elite gymnast means that Claudia is used to perform in front of a huge audience all the time. And last paragraph , it's an advantage. WTH gymnasts mostly always do well in these shows. They either win ( Shawn Johnson, laurie on dwts), are finalists ( Aly raisman), or semi finalists ( Claudia, Nastia Liukin).

I did Morris dancing is that an advantage?


they are all beginners at Latin and Ballroom

You do realise that Ore's degree is in Sports Science, do you? The majority of his course will have been spent in lecture halls - he didn't spend 3 years kicking a football around or learning how to keep wicket to Test match standards. There will have been some physical elements to his degree, but his qualification is in the science of sport - physiology, nutrition, psychology and stuff like that. He's obviously a fit young man, but you can hardly equate his education to that of stage school alumni.

Of course we'll get a beginner in the final again. A week on Saturday in fact: there are four competitors left, two of them are beginners, and there are three place in the final.

The end.

Exactly!

Even if they have done other dancing training, it's still their first time learning Ballroom and Latin.

Wrong...if you go to the Italia Conti web site, the academy/school where I believe Louise spent some time, you will see that they teach Latin, which includes, cha-cha, tango, salsa, rumba and I believe the jive That only leaves the waltz, quickstep and foxtrot and if you can master the Argentine tango I would think you could easily do the quickstep.
I don't know where Danny went but I would imagine it would be somewhere similar.
Neither of them would look out of place in a top musical, in fact what did Darcey say about not being able to tell which one was the pro regarding Danny?

Danny trained at Arts Ed, great reputation.
From their curriculum ...

'Curriculum in Detail
Years One and Two
Dance
Dance is an integral part of musical theatre. You will develop your competence and confidence in jazz, ballet, tap, contemporary and pas de deux. You will also develop your understanding of the human body so you can express yourself freely and creatively'.

So, there you have it - he has an advantage!

They all have an advantage and a disadvantage in one way or another.

Some have had dance experience (of one style or another) and others don't

Some are young vs others who are old

Some are incredibly fit after a life of sporting achievement (or a degree in sports science) vs others who are very much out of shape

Some are incredibly well known personalities with zillions of twitter followers vs others I've never heard of

Some are with that incredibly hunky pro dancer that is really popular vs others who are with a new pro that nobody knows yet