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Old 04-12-2016, 22:51
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Robin, in his hastily removed, deliciously indiscreet and very informative off the cuff informal Q&A video said that the pros can dictate the running order. So, if as with Lisa Riley, he had a partner who worked better in side-by-side Latin then front load the running order with that to get through the early weeks.
Hmmm.... but by this point in the proceedings, the range of dances left to choose from becomes rather small anyway. I think Rob had already done most of his ballroom dances already, so maybe they wanted to keep one in reserve in case he made it into the final.
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Old 04-12-2016, 22:52
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Get your mind off the gutter.
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Old 04-12-2016, 22:53
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It's still the case, except for few exceptions, like Greg, Ed and Robert.

BIB - True. Laura had to dance a Samba with her injured ankle, ballroom would have helped, why would they help her??
I don't suppose they knew she was going to injure her ankle when they drew up the story boards for each show back in June or whenever it would have been.
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Old 04-12-2016, 22:55
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Robin, in his hastily removed, deliciously indiscreet and very informative off the cuff informal Q&A video said that the pros can dictate the running order. So, if as with Lisa Riley, he had a partner who worked better in side-by-side Latin then front load the running order with that to get through the early weeks.
Doubt it. What if few of the pros want to do the same dance?? Who decides??
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Old 04-12-2016, 22:55
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Doubt it. What if few of the pros want to do the same dance?? Who decides??
Rock, paper, scissors is always good.
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Old 04-12-2016, 22:58
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Hmmm.... but by this point in the proceedings, the range of dances left to choose from becomes rather small anyway. I think Rob had already done most of his ballroom dances already, so maybe they wanted to keep one in reserve in case he made it into the final.
Including this week, he had Samba, AT, Tango and Waltz - so he could have easily done a ballroom this week and had the Samba and other ballroom in the semi final if necessary.
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Old 04-12-2016, 23:03
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Including this week, he had Samba, AT, Tango and Waltz - so he could have easily done a ballroom this week and had the Samba and other ballroom in the semi final if necessary.
But nobody ends up doing every dance anyway, so somewhere along the line he would have dropped a dance of some sort.

I thought he looked as if he really enjoyed this dance, so maybe he was really keen to make sure he had the chance to do it.

He's not daft - he knew he was never going to win - so maybe he really wanted the chance to perform this particular dance before the inevitable happened.
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Old 04-12-2016, 23:04
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Because you keep asking 'why' did they do or not do this or that which you obviously seem to think implies that the powers that be have acted in an underhand way to deliberately engineer a particular result.

I don't believe it works like that at all. All the evidence points to the order of the dances being decided right at the start. We know, for example, that the pro dancers have choreographed the routines for each of the dances long before the week in which they are danced in the competition. We know that because there have been several occasions where pro dancers have been injured and another pro has stood in and taught the routine that has been choregraphed by the celebrity's usual pro (this year it happened with Gorka standing in for Brendan and a few years ago it happened with Ian standing in for James Jordan). We also know this because it is talked about quite openly - eg on It Takes Two you hear people say things like "I always wanted to get to week x because I knew I had y dance that week and that is the one I have always wanted to do"

Judge Rinder happened to have a dance this week that wasn't his best. Lots of celebs have had dances at this stage of the competition that weren't their best - Pixie Lott for example. That is just the luck of the draw. Rinder was clearly the worst of the last five, from a dance perspective, so I don't think it would have mattered what dance he did, it would have been very likely that he would have been bottom of the leaderboard.
Of course they are. You can't throw a show like SCD together in a week. It will be planned months in advance. They will arrange the allocation of dances to achieve variety in each show. I don't know why they think that matters but the producers seem to think that is what the audience want and who am I to dispute it.

Flavia once intimated that who gets which dance, which week is done by drawing from a hat. We have also heard pros talk on ITT about planning ahead and teaching bits of technique in say week 3 which they know will be valuable in say week 6. In these interviews it seemed more like they were planning ahead to a known road map rather than just a vague knowledge that a dance would come up eventually. Also Katie Dereham in an interview after last year's series suggested that Anton told her at the start that they would "swerve the samba" (A decision for which I think we are all grateful)
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Old 04-12-2016, 23:06
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But nobody ends up doing every dance anyway, so somewhere along the line he would have dropped a dance of some sort.

I thought he looked as if he really enjoyed this dance, so maybe he was really keen to make sure he had the chance to do it.

He's not daft - he knew he was never going to win - so maybe he really wanted the chance to perform this particular dance before the inevitable happened.
In which case he would have dropped the AT - which would have made more sense to me than lining it up for the semi final - but it's all academic anyway.
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Old 04-12-2016, 23:07
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Get your mind off the gutter.
???

I assume I got caught in the crossfire this time.
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Old 04-12-2016, 23:13
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In which case he would have dropped the AT - which would have made more sense to me than lining it up for the semi final - but it's all academic anyway.
Well, we'll probably never know what he would have done and what would have been dropped, if he'd made it to the final.

As you say.... it's all academic now.
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Old 05-12-2016, 00:44
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If you believe it ever has been then you'll believe anything.

Although if it had been this week it would have been entirely fair. Actually I think there's only one week this year where it wouldn't have been the same result if it had been solely based on the dance-off, and that's Blackpool.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:10
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???

I assume I got caught in the crossfire this time.
Sorry, I thought you were giving a double meaning to my earlier post, thought that was funny. Genuine laughter.
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Old 05-12-2016, 21:05
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I think it is based on the DO and ore did a lot better than JR so he should've been saved
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