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Saara's Finnish 'voting scandal'
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Virtuoso
05-12-2016
Daily Express have picked up on Saara potentially getting Finnish votes. Hope this doesn't impact her reputation as the winner if she does win:

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...te-Saara-Aalto

It's a silly article.
supersnake
05-12-2016
It would be absolutely absurd if it affected her reputation. She has no responsibility for the people who vote her and the methods they use.
SULLA
05-12-2016
If her fans want to come to the UK to vote, then so be it
sbnufc
05-12-2016
I'm in Finland, and we can (and do) indeed vote for her. Change app store to UK, download the app and vote. It's not hard
felpcalibas
05-12-2016
not like she's the first one receiving international votes...
SULLA
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Virtuoso:
“Daily Express have picked up on Saara potentially getting Finnish votes. Hope this doesn't impact her reputation as the winner if she does win:

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...te-Saara-Aalto

It's a silly article.”

Don't think so if people in the UK turn against her.

It needs to be explained that Finland has a small population of about 5.5 million.
blahblahblah57
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Don't think so if people in the UK turn against her.

It needs to be explained that Finland has a small population of about 5.5 million.”

Never stopped anyone on here talking about "The Scottish vote",
Skyrah
05-12-2016
If it's true about the Finnish Vote, then I say good on them
Obviously the Finnish population are more intelligent than the Irish who always complains they can't vote
Wee_One
05-12-2016
Unfortunately, this does appear to be affecting Saara's odds though.

Despite being in the sing off, Matt is shortening in the odds whilst Saara drifts.
HeavySaurus
05-12-2016
And the official statement from producers is
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“Our investigations have shown there is no evidence that the vote result is being affected by this activity, though we are continuing to monitor the situation.”

So it's a non-story, really. But might affect the public opinion nonetheless.
JustSome1
05-12-2016
For the record I'm Finnish and haven't voted. Nor has anyone I know voted or really cared that much about voting even though they've followed her progress.

Gonna be interesting. She's finished second three times in different contests in Finland. Will she finish second again?
jocris2001
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by sbnufc:
“I'm in Finland, and we can (and do) indeed vote for her. Change app store to UK, download the app and vote. It's not hard”

so this just confirmed then!

needs investigating really. if ever i have a bet on either matt or 5am, i will feel robbed if she wins. even though she genuinely having a momentum here in uk, not everyone here who likes her would bother voting even free thru app. well i don't!
HR Guru
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by sbnufc:
“I'm in Finland, and we can (and do) indeed vote for her. Change app store to UK, download the app and vote. It's not hard”

Well it's not quite that easy - you need to sign up for a new iTunes account before you can download anything that's restricted to a different country.

For that you need a valid UK address and post code... and a new e-mail address.

So hardly something that the average person will bother with. The few that might go through the trouble make up for the fact that the other two acts have home coming performances in UK towns and both had buses filled with supporters whereas Saara's was empty.
SecretPassage
05-12-2016
But how is it possible to buy something from the UK iTunes store using a Finnish credit card? Isn't iTunes set up to block this? Or is it different for the EU? (Or is this not an issue because it's a free download?)

I've heard its a lot more complicated than just changing the store country - something that only a really dedicated fan would bother mucking around with.
HR Guru
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by SecretPassage:
“But how is it possible to buy something from the UK iTunes store using a Finnish credit card? Isn't iTunes set up to block this? Or is it different for the EU?

I've heard its a lot more complicated than just changing the store country - something that only a really dedicated fan would bother mucking around with.”

You have to sign up via the iTunes software on a PC or Mac which allows you to leave the credit card info blank.

The whole thing is a non-story. When Pokemon Go was released and not yet available in the UK there were instructions how to get it from the US App Store and it is pretty complex. Even more difficult on Android devices.
Charlottesweb
05-12-2016
Daily Express trying to sabotage the chances of a foreigner?

i am totally shocked.
zx50
05-12-2016
I see they had Saara saying that she was visiting Helsinki today. Even before they got to Saara I knew what she'd say.
HR Guru
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Charlottesweb:
“Daily Express trying to sabotage the chances of a foreigner?

i am totally shocked.”

Just look at the comments below the article. Makes me sick.
Adam_Collins
05-12-2016
The Article clearly states the same thing happened with 4th Impact and the votes coming from abroad are removed - so whilst the Finnish people may be attempting to vote it isn't registered - Saara's turn around therefore is just based on the UK voting, and the headline is clearly trying to de-rail her chance of winning - that's the unfair bit, as she clearly is the most talented and deserving winner!
zx50
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by HR Guru:
“Just look at the comments below the article. Makes me sick.”

I know. As far as I know Saara's living here. She's only gone over to Finland to see her family before Christmas.
zx50
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by Adam_Collins:
“The Article clearly states the same thing happened with 4th Impact and the votes coming from abroad are removed - so whilst the Finnish people may be attempting to vote it isn't registered - Saara's turn around therefore is just based on the UK voting, and the headline is clearly trying to de-rail her chance of winning - that's the unfair bit, as she clearly is the most talented and deserving winner!”

Some of the videos on Saara's YouTube channel show just how good she is. I say some because others have obviously been 'enhanced' to sound studiolike.
dizzie
05-12-2016
Genuine question - is it actually in the rules that non-UK votes will be disallowed, or is it just presumed that the ability to get the voting app is geo-restricted? I mean, I'm pretty sure that the media are whipping this one up and it may actually be at the producers' behest, but if it's not actually specifically cited in the terms of X Factors own rules, then the votes should be allowable. In any case, I rather suspect that, in the grand scheme of things (with millions of votes cast), the number of Finnish votes invested enough to go to the extraordinary lengths needed to get the app is just tiny!
jonparadise
05-12-2016
It's not really a surprise story coming from the Daily UKIP (gives them time off from making up stories about immigrants, Princess Diana and the weather I suppose), but it's still very sad how insular, nasty and sad much of our press has become.
SugarNSpice
05-12-2016
Originally Posted by jonparadise:
“It's not really a surprise story coming from the Daily UKIP (gives them time off from making up stories about immigrants, Princess Diana and the weather I suppose), but it's still very sad how insular, nasty and sad much of our press has become.”

Indeed. You're certainly not wrong there, especially with the afore-mentioned newspaper.
xTonix
05-12-2016
This comes out, and then it comes out the bosses are desperate for Matt to win, something funny going on, I really hope this doesn't effect Saaras chances, if her country has found away to vote for Saara that isn't her fault. Saara is by far the best there, really want her to win, she always puts on a show.
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