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Well it's not quite that easy - you need to sign up for a new iTunes account before you can download anything that's restricted to a different country.
For that you need a valid UK address and post code... and a new e-mail address. So hardly something that the average person will bother with. The few that might go through the trouble make up for the fact that the other two acts have home coming performances in UK towns and both had buses filled with supporters whereas Saara's was empty. |
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That article is absolute trash from a dirty rag of a paper
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I see they had Saara saying that she was visiting Helsinki today. Even before they got to Saara I knew what she'd say.
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Well it's not quite that easy - you need to sign up for a new iTunes account before you can download anything that's restricted to a different country.
For that you need a valid UK address and post code... and a new e-mail address. So hardly something that the average person will bother with. The few that might go through the trouble make up for the fact that the other two acts have home coming performances in UK towns and both had buses filled with supporters whereas Saara's was empty. |
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Dan Wootton spoke about this today on TV. He said Xfactor are looking into it.
Thing is do we all remember at the beginning of the live shows no one liked her? She asked what she had to do to get the UK to like her. Louis said you are just not liked. She wasn't getting the votes then but suddenly it all changed & according to the story something deceitful has been going on, and a loophole for voting has been found (quoting Dan's comment). I sincerely hope they get to the bottom of this. I never expected her to go far judging by those early shows. |
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Dan Wootton spoke about this today on TV. He said Xfactor are looking into it.
Thing is do we all remember at the beginning of the live shows no one liked her? She asked what she had to do to get the UK to like her. Louis said you are just not liked. She wasn't getting the votes then but suddenly it all changed & according to the story something deceitful has been going on, and a loophole for voting has been found (quoting Dan's comment). I sincerely hope they get to the bottom of this. I never expected her to go far judging by those early shows. The idea that they could have rigged the vote is absurd. This is simply nonsense from a very nasty newspaper. Because she is foreign. No more, no less. |
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Dan Wootton spoke about this today on TV. He said Xfactor are looking into it.
Thing is do we all remember at the beginning of the live shows no one liked her? She asked what she had to do to get the UK to like her. Louis said you are just not liked. She wasn't getting the votes then but suddenly it all changed & according to the story something deceitful has been going on, and a loophole for voting has been found (quoting Dan's comment). I sincerely hope they get to the bottom of this. I never expected her to go far judging by those early shows. |
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The entire population of Finland is around a third of the population of London.
The idea that they could have rigged the vote is absurd. This is simply nonsense from a very nasty newspaper. Because she is foreign. No more, no less. We have to remember that Saara has very publicly tried to be succesful in Finland for last 10 years. She does have some fans, but she definately is not everyone's favorite. Sure, there is some "Finland"-hype going on now, but if Saara finishes AGAIN in the second, or worst, place Finnish media will be ruthless and rip her apart. So its either win or stay in the UK and never come back for Saara. |
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And of Finland's population maybe a small fraction of those who even support Saara has the technical knowhow + enough interest to vote for her through the app.
We have to remember that Saara has very publicly tried to be succesful in Finland for last 10 years. She does have some fans, but she definately is not everyone's favorite. Sure, there is some "Finland"-hype going on now, but if Saara finishes AGAIN in the second, or worst, place Finnish media will be ruthless and rip her apart. So its either win or stay in the UK and never come back for Saara. |
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The show is being shown live on Finnish TV now I believe
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so this just confirmed then!
needs investigating really. if ever i have a bet on either matt or 5am, i will feel robbed if she wins. even though she genuinely having a momentum here in uk, not everyone here who likes her would bother voting even free thru app. well i don't! |
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And of Finland's population maybe a small fraction of those who even support Saara has the technical knowhow + enough interest to vote for her through the app.
We have to remember that Saara has very publicly tried to be succesful in Finland for last 10 years. She does have some fans, but she definately is not everyone's favorite. Sure, there is some "Finland"-hype going on now, but if Saara finishes AGAIN in the second, or worst, place Finnish media will be ruthless and rip her apart. So its either win or stay in the UK and never come back for Saara. a) The show has already said it is not a factor b) It is the daily express. A xenophobic rag that hates anyone foreign. I suspect they will run something about 5AM before the week is out too. That rag will dislike them just as much, for a slightly different reason. |
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I'm in Finland, and we can (and do) indeed vote for her. Change app store to UK, download the app and vote. It's not hard
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I didnt do any of that..
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this isnt true at all
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The show is being shown live on Finnish TV now I believe
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I agree. I think the Finnish vote has a very minimal affect.
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OMG she should be disqualified immediately from the final!!!
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The show is being shown live on Finnish TV now I believe
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I saw a post with the voting instructions on Saara's Finnish FB fanpage (that her fiancé/manager was running or at least she was one of the admins) a while ago. They even translated the instructions from Finnish to English so that Eurovision fans can vote for her from other countries as well
they are also saying the app works fine and votes are being accepted. She will win with the help of all of these votes .
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Really? So how did she suddenly go from being disliked & in the bottom to being so popular? Clearly it did affect things. It's just wrong.
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Really? So how did she suddenly go from being disliked & in the bottom to being so popular? Clearly it did affect things. It's just wrong.
Not that I vote, and am not Finnish (just Scottish ), so my action shave no impact on her position whatsoever, but other people within the UK (who do vote) may feel similar. The fact that she is Finnish has no impact of my regard for her one way or another - she herself and her performances have.
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I saw a post with the voting instructions on Saara's Finnish FB fanpage (that her fiancé/manager was running or at least she was one of the admins) a while ago. They even translated the instructions from Finnish to English so that Eurovision fans can vote for her from other countries as well
they are also saying the app works fine and votes are being accepted. She will win with the help of all of these votes . |
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The same nonsense claims were made about the Philippines voting for 4th Impact on the app. A country of over 100 million as opposed to Finland's 5 million.
Remind me where 4th Impact finished again? The xenophobia is real. Foreigners can only better Brits if they cheat seems to be the motto of many. Matt and 5am going to their hometowns to canvass for votes if perfectly acceptable of course. Saara should go sit alone in the dark at the X Factor house. |
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Thank you being honest about it. It begins to make sense now as to how she suddenly 'became popular' after the UK came across as really not liking her at all.
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I can easily see these news have more affect on final voting results than votes possible gone thru earlier stage even with all the hype here in Finland.
About Saara's popularity based on Spotify figures you need about 5000 streams to get last place on top 200 daily chart, most songs on Saara's 2013 released album have around 10000 total streams in 3 years. |
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they are also saying the app works fine and votes are being accepted. She will win with the help of all of these votes .