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So your solution is to do nothing and make things worse.
If the mountain won't come to Mohammed... I fear a fatwa in the post for saying this.😆 |
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Are you saying a Muslim from Iran thinks the same way as one from Turkey who thinks the same as one from India who thinks the same as one from Pakistan who thinks the same as one from East Africa who thinks the same as one from West Africa who thinks the same as one from Russia who thinks the same as one from Indonesia.
Pr[b]esumably Sadiq Khan is a misogynist and lives in a Muslim ghetto. Khan Is a member of the Metropolitan liberal elite and certainly not a misogynist and a doesn't live in the ghetto are you trying to suggest that most Muslims are like Khan ? |
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It's not so much religion orientated, more to do with the fact that they consider them less educated/backwards as far as I can make out. Oldham/Bradford tends to have a higher population of Mipuri I believe than in the South where a lot of Pakistanis come from the Punjab area. A lot of our old IT guys were from that area and they were very derogatory towards the Mipuri.
As other posters have pointed out, there are many groups in the UK (both religious and cultural) which don't integrate, but none of them pose a threat to other groups and this is an enormous hurdle to most people when they consider the position of muslims in the UK. |
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The reasons for the animosity are unimportant - it is the result of the animosity which concern me and it would seem that many muslims have extreme reactions which definitely threaten those who do not agree with them. No other group (since the IRA) has posed such a threat to people in the UK. With this in mind it's not difficult to understand why many are wary.
As other posters have pointed out, there are many groups in the UK (both religious and cultural) which don't integrate, but none of them pose a threat to other groups and this is an enormous hurdle to most people when they consider the position of muslims in the UK. 2nd BiB why not since the Irish or since the Catholics. Why make the distinction between the IRA and all Irish or all Catholics, but not with Muslims. |
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1st BiB how many
2nd BiB why not since the Irish or since the Catholics. Why make the distinction between the IRA and all Irish or all Catholics, but not with Muslims. As far as I am aware the IRA was not composed of a sizeable number of either Irish or Catholic people, so it would be hard to categorize those people who were committing acts of violence against citizens of the UK as other than IRA. |
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I have no idea what BiB means I'm afraid. "Many" means in this instance at least a sizeable number as opposed to either "a few" or "most". Not an unreasonable use of the word when you consider how many muslims are trying to kill each other, let alone those wanting to kill non-muslims.
As far as I am aware the IRA was not composed of a sizeable number of either Irish or Catholic people, so it would be hard to categorize those people who were committing acts of violence against citizens of the UK as other than IRA. If you count every Muslim in the UK suspected by MI5 of any links to terrorism the number is just over 3,000. The Muslim population of the UK in the 2011 census is 2,706.066 people. So 1 out of every 902 Muslims in the UK is suspected to have some link to terrorism. The IRA had up to 5,000+ members at one time at its height, some estimates have the figure as low as 1,500 members at one time at its height. Sinn Fein the political wing got 102,701 votes in 1983. In the 1981 census 414,532 people resident in Northern Ireland self identified as Catholic. So at its height from 1 out of every 276 to 1 out of every 83 Northern Ireland Catholics may have been IRA members and 1 out of every 4 Catholics voted for Sinn Fein the political wing of the IRA when the IRA were an active terrorist organization. |
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