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You prefer a political from the old school like Clinton? Trump is an outsider, he is an element of change, and he isn't in the 'job' till 19th January 2017.
The trouble with change is that it is not always to the good. Trump was a poor businessman with a record of not paying suppliers, and a number of his businesses going bankrupt. Then a reality star - a job he was eventually fired from because of the various comments (some racist) made on twitter. Nor is he an outsider, as a relatively wealthy person he is as much a part of the establishment as anybody else. Further look at things like his tax policies and who do you think will benefit most from those policies. Not the poorest - try the richest 1% - otherwise known as the establishment. |
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You mean less crime, less poverty, less police shooting their own citizens, fewer of the population in prison, national guard not called out to subdue protesters, smaller army,less bombing of foreign countries?
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Domestically the nation is divided.
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Why??
He clearly sees himself as a winner, and winning is what he does, so why would he not think he could win this from the very start?? Thinking he did this for a league, or tongue in cheek is madness, as that doesn't seem to be his thinking when it comes to the serious parts of his life. Starting the process with a "why not, have a go" TIC attitude without actually expecting to win is perfectly acceptable (for many candidates I'm sure). I think that was Trump's mentality, you don't. I suspect many of the aforementioned candidates of all countries have people tell them that their standing is madness to. It's what I'd say to anyone who isn't likely to get their deposit back in the UK. |
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What you say as a world leader carries weight, it sends signals (even if it's just to signal that you're an idiot), especially if you're the leader of a superpower. Trump doesn't have the sophistication to fully understand this, but to make it even worse, he doesn't appear to care about the consequences of his outbursts.
Someone like Trump can be easily manipulated. His narcissism is a weakness, not a strength. Other world leaders are going to play him like a fiddle. |
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You prefer a political from the old school like Clinton? Trump is an outsider, he is an element of change, and he isn't in the 'job' till 19th January 2017.
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Maybe, time will tell. Trump isn't Bush Jr.
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Make that 20th at exactly noon DC time.
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Maybe, time will tell. Trump isn't Bush Jr.
This is a man whose idea of international diplomacy is not so much to tickle the backside of the dragon - but to give it a kicking - not generally conducive to the health of most people. |
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If I had the choice I'd prefer someone competent.
The trouble with change is that it is not always to the good. Trump was a poor businessman with a record of not paying suppliers, and a number of his businesses going bankrupt. Then a reality star - a job he was eventually fired from because of the various comments (some racist) made on twitter. Nor is he an outsider, as a relatively wealthy person he is as much a part of the establishment as anybody else. Further look at things like his tax policies and who do you think will benefit most from those policies. Not the poorest - try the richest 1% - otherwise known as the establishment. |
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I'd prefer someone who thinks things through rather than someone who gets seriously upset if his morning egg isn't on his favourite plate.
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Shrub is a giant compared to trump. Al Qaeda had to fly planes into buildings to get his attention, with trump all they'll have to do is make a joke about him.
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i was about to reply to a couple of posts but then i saw the 9/11 conspiracy suggestion and realised it would be a waste of time
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When it comes to control of one of the largest militaries on the planet one should be able to rely on a bit more than 'maybe'.
This is a man whose idea of international diplomacy is not so much to tickle the backside of the dragon - but to give it a kicking - not generally conducive to the health of most people. |
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Maybe, time will tell. Trump isn't Bush Jr.
Who knew there was a whole lower layer waiting in the wings? |
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You'd have to ask him.
Starting the process with a "why not, have a go" TIC attitude without actually expecting to win is perfectly acceptable (for many candidates I'm sure). I think that was Trump's mentality, you don't. I suspect many of the aforementioned candidates of all countries have people tell them that their standing is madness to. It's what I'd say to anyone who isn't likely to get their deposit back in the UK. He just has huge faith in himself, what other people think of him, I don't really think he cares too much, with him, it is all about winning, by any means necessary. |
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I remember the good old days when loads of us thought that the USA had 'bottomed out' when they elected G W B,
Who knew there was a whole lower layer waiting in the wings? Why not wait until he is actually the President, and judge him then? What good does pre-judging someone do?? |
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Once again, you are basing your view of Trump from what you may have seen of him via the biased media. You don't know the man, you have zero idea what he'll do when he is POTUS, but IMO he'll be better then Clinton would be, and America will also be better for it.
Seriously I am basing my view of Trump on his own actions! He is the one firing off tweets. He is the one excusing sexist talk as 'locker room' IMO He will go down as one of the worst Presidents in a generation, that is assuming he will actually make it as far as the next election, with his existing legal problems. He is thin skinned, shows poor judgement, his economic policies will help 1% of the richest Americans, but leave everyone else worse off. He will fail to bring any jobs, assuming that he brings back Manufacturing because to survive most manufacturing is now automated and only getting more so. Then just to cap it all will leave the US even more indebted than it is now. |
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No, more like a gynocentric excessively PC society pandering to SJW's and every minority you can think of, and their government cabinet is half women and half men, what can possibly go wrong.
What's so wrong with that? Are you actually implying that government is a mans job and calling women involved in politics "PC gone mad"? And gynocentric? What? |
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FFS!
Seriously I am basing my view of Trump on his own actions! He is the one firing off tweets. He is the one excusing sexist talk as 'locker room' IMO He will go down as one of the worst Presidents in a generation, that is assuming he will actually make it as far as the next election, with his existing legal problems. He is thin skinned, shows poor judgement, his economic policies will help 1% of the richest Americans, but leave everyone else worse off. He will fail to bring any jobs, assuming that he brings back Manufacturing because to survive most manufacturing is now automated and only getting more so. Then just to cap it all will leave the US even more indebted than it is now. Why be so negative towards him even before he has got into office, what good does that do or achieve? |
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Until he has had some tough decisions to make as President, why not give him a chance?
Why be so negative towards him even before he has got into office, what good does that do or achieve? He is an ignorant, racist, sexist fool. He is making the country a laughing stock but really it's not funny. All this tweeting/insulting other countries is undiplomatic and downright dangerous. I assumed he would be getting advice during this interim period - I'm sure he probably is but he's choosing to ignore it and building up a team of questionable people around him. The negativity is 100% deserved. |
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Because he gives us plenty of good reason to be negative.
He is an ignorant, racist, sexist fool. He is making the country a laughing stock but really it's not funny. All this tweeting/insulting other countries is undiplomatic and downright dangerous. I assumed he would be getting advice during this interim period - I'm sure he probably is but he's choosing to ignore it and building up a team of questionable people around him. The negativity is 100% deserved. this is a guy who when his name was being mentioned for HHS, a department he at least has a semblance of experience for, his spokesman said ; Quote:
Dr. Carson feels he has no government experience, he’s never run a federal agency. The last thing he would want to do was take a position that could cripple the presidency.”
but apparently he is capable of running a different department he has zero background in
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Until he has had some tough decisions to make as President, why not give him a chance?
Why be so negative towards him even before he has got into office, what good does that do or achieve? |
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Because he gives us plenty of good reason to be negative.
He is an ignorant, racist, sexist fool. He is making the country a laughing stock but really it's not funny. All this tweeting/insulting other countries is undiplomatic and downright dangerous. I assumed he would be getting advice during this interim period - I'm sure he probably is but he's choosing to ignore it and building up a team of questionable people around him. The negativity is 100% deserved. By all means complain about him when he has done something to warrant such complaints, but he is not in power yet, so being negative seems very unhelpful, as surely all Americans want what is best for their country don't they, and attacking their soon to be President, is just not the way to achieve this. |
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Until he has had some tough decisions to make as President, why not give him a chance?
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Why be so negative towards him even before he has got into office, what good does that do or achieve?
He aspires to be the most powerful political leader on the planet, of course one should be tough. Not only that but get it wrong and a lot of people will pay the price - but none will be Donald Trump. One can be as tough as you can be on those who seek to lead us. At least as tough as Trump supporters are about Hilary Clinton - it sometimes looks as if Trump supporters are as thin skinned as Donald Trump - willing to dish it out, but moan when their person gets it.
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