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oncemore
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“No so, Clinton was symbolic of all that is rotten in the US political system. IMO the US voters who voted for Trump voted wisely.”

Ok, you're still not defending Trump or his idiotic staff picks, his incomprehensible policy positions, his waffling back and forth on key issues, he's going back on his campaign promises, all of that.

I can imagine that this is how Trump people will be for the next while, they can't actually respond to criticisms of him so they just try to change the subject.

Nice try, not buying it.
Dotheboyshall
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Women started getting the vote so government expenditure started going up as women are majority of voters, and women wanted stuff.”

The Founding Fathers didn't want women having the vote, so it's logical to repeal the 19th Amendment.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by paulschapman:
“Clinton is a politician but when various fact checking sources compared Trump and Clinton - Trump was the bigger liar by far - indeed according to PolitiFact

Clinton score for truthful was 72, Trumps was 14
Clinton score for false/pants on fire was 26. Trumps was 68

As for blood on her hands - on what basis? Syria - that would have been a decision for the President, not the Secretary of state.

And a burning desire for war. Trump's weak response to Putin is likely to create a war - sometimes it is important to be strong in front of an aggressor.”

Your distaste for Trump is all to evident. It is irrelevant how Clinton scored, Trump won Clinton lost. Trump will be POTUS, Clinton won't. The US were not invited in by the Syrian government, the Russian's were, the US has zero rights to be there. Clinton wanted a no-fly zone in Syria, which means the US would be going up against the Syrian air-force and the Russian air-force.
Dotheboyshall
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“No so, Clinton was symbolic of all that is rotten in the US political system. IMO the US voters who voted for Trump voted wisely.”

Trump is symbolic of all that is rotten in the US. Anyone who voted trump who isn't in the top 1% of earners is an idiot, heck he couldn't even get the majority of the voters to vote for him.
Lafayette
06-12-2016
People on his team must surely know his behaviour on Twitter is unacceptable for a head of state. I wonder if he will be allowed to tweet like this once in office....
oncemore
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lafayette:
“People on his team must surely know his behaviour on Twitter is unacceptable for a head of state. I wonder if he will be allowed to tweet like this once in office....”

If you haven't noticed, Trump only surrounds himself with sycophants.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by oncemore:
“Ok, you're still not defending Trump or his idiotic staff picks, his incomprehensible policy positions, his waffling back and forth on key issues, he's going back on his campaign promises, all of that.

I can imagine that this is how Trump people will be for the next while, they can't actually respond to criticisms of him so they just try to change the subject.

Nice try, not buying it.”

Not being an American I don't care if you 'buy it' or not. You and other posters here don't care for Trump, I think he'll be a good president.
Dotheboyshall
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lafayette:
“People on his team must surely know his behaviour on Twitter is unacceptable for a head of state. I wonder if he will be allowed to tweet like this once in office....”

When Obama became POTUS his phone was replaced by a secure phone that was less capable than a phone used by an average 5 yr old. I suspect the Secret Service would prefer the POTUS to use landlines only.

One thing I've always wondered, does the SS have the right to kill the President if they go crazy? If so trump's reign may be very short
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“The Founding Fathers didn't want women having the vote, so it's logical to repeal the 19th Amendment.”

You'd need two thirds of both houses to repeal an amendment in their constitution, and that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Dotheboyshall
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“You'd need two thirds of both houses to repeal an amendment in their constitution, and that isn't going to happen anytime soon.”

1) I know
2) I didn't suggest it was going to happen
3) trump doesn't care about the Constitution given his views on the 1st Amendment
oncemore
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Not being an American I don't care if you 'buy it' or not. You and other posters here don't care for Trump, I think he'll be a good president.”

Oh, so do you think he was making a good decision by putting Carson (a neurosurgeon who himself said he was unqualified to be a Cabinet Secretary) in charge of US housing policy?

Cool.

You only like him because he tells you what you want to hear about his stance towards Russia.
paulschapman
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Women started getting the vote so government expenditure started going up as women are majority of voters, and women wanted stuff.”

The first time this country had to introduce income tax was 1799 - 130 years before women got the vote. It was to pay for the Napolionic Wars. Government debt for the UK peaked in 1815, declining for a century until WWI when it again reached 200% of GDP - it again declined until WWII when it reached the same level after which it again declined to below 50% by 1970. Simply put any analysis of the facts show that your statement that expenditure started to increase when women got the vote - is not backed up by the facts - there is not even a correlation between woman getting the vote and increased expenditure.

Quote:
“As for Trump, wait till he is POTUS, and stop listening to the biased US MSM, and their dire predictions, no-one knows what kind of POTUS he'll be.”

I don't just rely on the mainstream press - certainly not the American Mainstream Press. I'm British, and while we do not know what kind of President he may be - we can look at what he says and make a judgement on that. Further as I said it is not just what the press say about him. It is what he himself has said, and does - which shows he will be a poor a President. 52 years old and I have seen what a good President and a bad President would be. Trump is looking like a repeat of Nixon and most of us know what happened there.

Stop trying to shut people up who do not agree with you - engage in the arguments.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“Trump is symbolic of all that is rotten in the US. Anyone who voted trump who isn't in the top 1% of earners is an idiot, heck he couldn't even get the majority of the voters to vote for him.”

That sounds like sour grapes from what you'd hear from the snowflakes in America who didn't like the result. I guess the alleged 3 million illegals who didn't have the right to vote but who voted for Clinton anyway, and all the dead people who apparently also voted for her swung that debatable figure. Clinton still lost.
batdude_uk1
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“When Obama became POTUS his phone was replaced by a secure phone that was less capable than a phone used by an average 5 yr old. I suspect the Secret Service would prefer the POTUS to use landlines only.

One thing I've always wondered, does the SS have the right to kill the President if they go crazy? If so trump's reign may be very short”

That comes across as if you are almost salivating at the thought of Trump being killed, which is a horrible thing to wish for.

Why would anyone be interested in knowing if the SS would kill the President? It just will not happen.
batdude_uk1
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by oncemore:
“Oh, so do you think he was making a good decision by putting Carson (a neurosurgeon who himself said he was unqualified to be a Cabinet Secretary) in charge of US housing policy?

Cool.

You only like him because he tells you what you want to hear about his stance towards Russia.”

Has he himself said that he was unqualified, I thought that was a friend that said that comments?
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by oncemore:
“Oh, so do you think he was making a good decision by putting Carson (a neurosurgeon who himself said he was unqualified to be a Cabinet Secretary) in charge of US housing policy?

Cool.

You only like him because he tells you what you want to hear about his stance towards Russia.”

That's Trumps decision as POTUS elect, not mine. It won't affect me one jot who is the US Cabinet Secretary in charge of US housing policy.

I like him because Trump winning has swung the world from a possible WW3 which you would have had with Clinton as POTUS.
oncemore
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“That sounds like sour grapes from what you'd hear from the snowflakes in America who didn't like the result. I guess the alleged 3 million illegals who didn't have the right to vote but who voted for Clinton anyway, and all the dead people who apparently also voted for her swung that debatable figure. Clinton still lost.”

'alleged' by right-wing conspiracy theorists and the big idiot Cheeto himself, and nobody else.

But I guess if he thinks there were 3 million invalid votes, he should support recount efforts? That's good to hear.
oncemore
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“That's Trumps decision as POTUS elect, not mine. It won't affect me one jot who is the US Cabinet Secretary in charge of US housing policy.

I like him because Trump winning has swung the world from a possible WW3 which you would have had with Clinton as POTUS.”

Whether or not it affects you wasn't the question.

Again, trying to switch to Clinton. You don't actually know anything about Trump or what he's doing, do you?
paulschapman
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Your distaste for Trump is all to evident. It is irrelevant how Clinton scored, Trump won Clinton lost. Trump will be POTUS, Clinton won't. The US were not invited in by the Syrian government, the Russian's were, the US has zero rights to be there. Clinton wanted a no-fly zone in Syria, which means the US would be going up against the Syrian air-force and the Russian air-force.”

You accused Clinton of being a liar and gave that as a reason to vote for Trump - who is demonstrably lied a lot more.

As for Syria, of course America was not invited - Assad was busy killing his citizens; women and children. We as in the international community have a duty to protect those who cannot protect them. Russia was invited because it has no interest in protecting those people - just increasing Russian influence and power which is what Putin wants so needs a pro-Russia leader. With a weak US leader it gives him free reign to move into the Baltic states and Finland.
Dotheboyshall
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by oncemore:
“'alleged' by right-wing conspiracy theorists and the big idiot Cheeto himself, and nobody else.

But I guess if he thinks there were 3 million invalid votes, he should support recount efforts? That's good to hear.”

trump himself said the election was rigged, so it's only sensible that he should support recounts IN EVERY STATE even if it means passing laws to do so.

I would go further and say he should announce voting reform to stop voter fraud.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by paulschapman:
“The first time this country had to introduce income tax was 1799 - 130 years before women got the vote. It was to pay for the Napolionic Wars. Government debt for the UK peaked in 1815, declining for a century until WWI when it again reached 200% of GDP - it again declined until WWII when it reached the same level after which it again declined to below 50% by 1970. Simply put any analysis of the facts show that your statement that expenditure started to increase when women got the vote - is not backed up by the facts - there is not even a correlation between woman getting the vote and increased expenditure.


I don't just rely on the mainstream press - certainly not the American Mainstream Press. I'm British, and while we do not know what kind of President he may be - we can look at what he says and make a judgement on that. Further as I said it is not just what the press say about him. It is what he himself has said, and does - which shows he will be a poor a President. 52 years old and I have seen what a good President and a bad President would be. Trump is looking like a repeat of Nixon and most of us know what happened there.

Stop trying to shut people up who do not agree with you - engage in the arguments.”

Lets see a British government cut back of stuff, and see how many women protest with the vote.

Again, he's not even POTUS yet, and you [and other here] are dissing him. Wait and see how the office of POTUS affects his decisions.
jjwales
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“You'd have preferred Clinton”

I think most people over here would have preferred Clinton.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by oncemore:
“'alleged' by right-wing conspiracy theorists and the big idiot Cheeto himself, and nobody else.

But I guess if he thinks there were 3 million invalid votes, he should support recount efforts? That's good to hear.”

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...ed+for+clinton

As for the recount, I believe that's already being done, and Trump still won crucial states.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by oncemore:
“Whether or not it affects you wasn't the question.

Again, trying to switch to Clinton. You don't actually know anything about Trump or what he's doing, do you?”

The same could be said of you, and all the others in this tread discussion dissing Trump.
AnotherPOV
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by paulschapman:
“You accused Clinton of being a liar and gave that as a reason to vote for Trump - who is demonstrably lied a lot more.

As for Syria, of course America was not invited - Assad was busy killing his citizens; women and children. We as in the international community have a duty to protect those who cannot protect them. Russia was invited because it has no interest in protecting those people - just increasing Russian influence and power which is what Putin wants so needs a pro-Russia leader. With a weak US leader it gives him free reign to move into the Baltic states and Finland.”

US msm propaganda.
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