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Old 05-12-2016, 16:07
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I don't think you understand what he has just said. With two words he has trashed the judiciary, parliament and democratic history of our country.
You can think whatever you want but for someone who has shown a complete lack of understanding of words i don't think you're in a position to tell me what i do or don't understand.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:09
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You can think whatever you want but for someone who has shown a complete lack of understanding of words i don't think you're in a position to tell me what i do or don't understand.
Lol. I take comfort that neutral journalists gasped as much as I did when he came out with it.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:10
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Lol. I take comfort that neutral journalists gasped as much as I did when he came out with it.
Yes well you can take comfort in the fact Journalists agree with you in points of law.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:11
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I knew how the Brexit vote would go because there's a vast swathe of voters who are little more than stupid sheep but this horror story is only going to get worse.

Anything that has a hope in hell of stopping it has my "vote".
I wish there was something that could be done to stop it. However I just don't see a way out of leaving the EU that will not cause mass anarchy.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:16
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Yes well you can take comfort in the fact Journalists agree with you in points of law.
Sorry the implications of what he said have nothing to do with law.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:18
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Loving the Farrage interview on sky; he seems to be standing in front of a price list for UKIP tat "key ring £1.50", "wristband £2.00"...
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:20
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After reading or listening to all the Government's points today, I was left with one overriding thought, something that was neatly encapsulated a few minutes ago by one of the judges' comments to the Government barrister Mr. Eadie:

Lord Mance said there was a “huge difference” between the power to change the rules of a club one was a member of - and not being a member of the club at all.

That's the biggest weakness in the Government's case, expressed as concisely as it can be, by one of the supreme court judges. They will I expect continue to cut through all the woolly fluff and legalese to get right to the nub of the issue, which is how it should be.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:20
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Sorry the implications of what he said have nothing to do with law.
Yes they do the point was that the ECA is constitutional so as a result any rights derived from it cant be revoked by use of the prerogative which completely sidesteps their argument that unless it is restricted by parliament, it can.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:22
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What planet are you on?

Every single rule we currently have when manufacturing a product for sale in the UK and EU will remain. Any and all financial regulations will remain if we want to have the tiniest chance of conducting business with the EU. Shared broadcasting licences will remain. Just a few examples...

As for rights - all employment legislation will remain in force, the European privacy laws will remain in force, the European patent regulations will remain in force; consumer rights will remain in force... Just a few examples...

There are hundreds of others.

You do understand what the GRB is I hope?
The planet where the UK's future relationship with the EU is determined by the exit negotiations and agreed by the EU and the UK and whatever EU laws the UK wishes to keep which the GRB enacts into UK law will up to the UK and that exit agreement.

Btw we have to abide by the local rules of any market we sell into but we don't have to implement those rules here.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:23
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Loving the Farrage interview on sky; he seems to be standing in front of a price list for UKIP tat "key ring £1.50", "wristband £2.00"...
No armbands?
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:27
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I knew how the Brexit vote would go because there's a vast swathe of voters who are little more than stupid sheep but this horror story is only going to get worse.

Anything that has a hope in hell of stopping it has my "vote".
Well said.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:31
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I knew how the Brexit vote would go because there's a vast swathe of voters who are little more than stupid sheep but this horror story is only going to get worse.

Anything that has a hope in hell of stopping it has my "vote".
Even if the judges rule that parliament must have a say in triggering A50, it won't stop Brexit.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:31
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Haha so according to Eadie "Parliament has legislated to control withdrawals of other countries from the EU Treaty" but "in relation to our withdrawal there are no controls" ?!?

What on earth is he doing???

So our Parliament would rule on other countries leaving but would leave government to do as it pleases when it comes to our own withdrawal?
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:33
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What on earth is he doing???
Emphasising the point that they haven't legislated and as a result haven't restricted the use of the prerogative perhaps?

I mean that has been their entire point.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:35
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Haha...
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:39
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Even if the judges rule that parliament must have a say in triggering A50, it won't stop Brexit.
Why not?
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:39
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Emphasising the point that they haven't legislated and as a result haven't restricted the use of the prerogative perhaps?

I mean that has been their entire point.
Lol. My neighbour in number 58 never told me that I couldn't just enter his house, whereas my neighbour in number 60 did. So I conclude that I can just enter number 58.

Wow.

Shame that this goes very much against their argument that the ref should be considered binding. I mean after all parliament didn't legislate that is could be advisory, regardless of the fact that the referendum act stipulates that all referendums are advisory and that the only ever binding referendum was made so.... by parliament (the A/V ref in case people forgot).
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:40
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Scenes of Farage's 100,000 people marching on the Supreme Court

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7456406.html

Shame 99,998 seem to have gone missing...
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:41
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Apart from a few MPs who do not respect the vote on June 23rd, it will be voted through parliament.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:41
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Lol. My neighbour in number 58 never told me that I couldn't just enter his house, whereas my neighbour in number 60 did. So I conclude that I can just enter number 58.
Do you have the authority to enter peoples houses at will?

You're not very good at this are you?
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:44
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Do you have the authority to enter peoples houses at will?

You're not very good at this are you?
Does the government have authority to change domestic law via RP. Thought not.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:46
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Does the government have authority to change domestic law via RP. Thought not.
Yes, it was laid out pretty clearly and the only objection made was whether or not it applied to the abolition of law.

Like i said, you aren't very good at this are you? Words mean things.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:48
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Yes, it was laid out pretty clearly,
the only objection made was whether or not it applied to the abolition of law.

Like i said, you aren't very good at this are you. Words mean things.
You're still taking the governments arguments as gold.

As opposed to you, yes I am damn good as this... as proven in my daily work and as proven, publicly on here, predicting how the High Court would rule and why.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:49
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You're still taking the governments arguments as gold.
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No i'm referring to the judges comments. If you dont have the memory of a goldfish perhaps you can recall the conversation about a stream.

The judge accepted the fact that the prerogative can "change laws" from "time to time". but he wasn't so convinced it applied to the abolition of laws.
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Old 05-12-2016, 16:50
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Apart from a few MPs who do not respect the vote on June 23rd, it will be voted through parliament.
Oh dear.
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