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The Benefit System
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Pumping Iron
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“No it's not. Especially when there is such a huge stigma that people like myself who are rightly claiming a measly amount of money feel they need to keep it secret incase people think I'm a scrounger.”

I agree, it's ridiculous that you feel the need to keep it secret.
GusGus
06-12-2016
"One guy I know from where I used to live was off work, claiming off the benefit system for a bad back. Apparently he had a job walking, but that didn't stop him from chopping wood or lifting a sofa."


Careful, people will argue that he is entitled to "chop wood or lift a sofa" because that is his right, and he should be entitled to benefits from the bottomless benefits pot
They don't seem to understand that such benefits limit those paid to the genuine needy
walterwhite
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“"One guy I know from where I used to live was off work, claiming off the benefit system for a bad back. Apparently he had a job walking, but that didn't stop him from chopping wood or lifting a sofa."


Careful, people will argue that he is entitled to "chop wood or lift a sofa" because that is his right, and he should be entitled to benefits from the bottomless benefits pot
They don't seem to understand that such benefits limit those paid to the genuine needy”

Some people are wrongly claiming benefits. We know. It is only a tiny amount of people though.
Chihiro77
06-12-2016
Funny that it's the same people who claim to know someone scrounging, yet I work in social care and have never met one.
mimik1uk
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“"One guy I know from where I used to live was off work, claiming off the benefit system for a bad back. Apparently he had a job walking, but that didn't stop him from chopping wood or lifting a sofa."


Careful, people will argue that he is entitled to "chop wood or lift a sofa" because that is his right, and he should be entitled to benefits from the bottomless benefits pot
They don't seem to understand that such benefits limit those paid to the genuine needy”

and you dont seem to understand the process that people are required to go through in order to receive disability benefits in 2016

you dont just phone up the DWP tell them you have a bad back and they send you money ...
walterwhite
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“and you dont seem to understand the process that people are required to go through in order to receive disability benefits in 2016

you dont just phone up the DWP tell them you have a bad back and they send you money ...”

No. You fill in a 70 page form, get a section filled out by a qualified person, send it with all your medical reports and any other information they require and if you are lucky you get an answer in a month or so. I applied for carers allowance over 2 months ago and still haven't had an answer.
CELT1987
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“"One guy I know from where I used to live was off work, claiming off the benefit system for a bad back. Apparently he had a job walking, but that didn't stop him from chopping wood or lifting a sofa."


Careful, people will argue that he is entitled to "chop wood or lift a sofa" because that is his right, and he should be entitled to benefits from the bottomless benefits pot
They don't seem to understand that such benefits limit those paid to the genuine needy”

Tell us who is the genuine needy is, as your clearly an absolute expert on spotting disabilities.
CELT1987
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“and you dont seem to understand the process that people are required to go through in order to receive disability benefits in 2016

you dont just phone up the DWP tell them you have a bad back and they send you money ...”

Agree. Claiming any benefits nowadays is humiliating, demeaning and stressful.
tim59
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“"One guy I know from where I used to live was off work, claiming off the benefit system for a bad back. Apparently he had a job walking, but that didn't stop him from chopping wood or lifting a sofa."


Careful, people will argue that he is entitled to "chop wood or lift a sofa" because that is his right, and he should be entitled to benefits from the bottomless benefits pot
They don't seem to understand that such benefits limit those paid to the genuine needy”

Well you can also say, that the DWP found him unfit to work, as they are the people who decide these things.
Sexbomb
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by CELT1987:
“That was a political party broadcast from the Tory party.”

Pmsl
Johnny_Sinclair
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“It's a joke, right? People come into the country, and automatically they're able to make a bunch of claims, be that through housing, medical or otherwise. There's countless disabled people who also claim, in addition to all the slobs that are just too lazy to go out there and get a job, so instead get a benefit pay-out so they can waste money (and their lives) on cigarettes and booze!

I get that some people have illnesses or disabilities, but surely there is work (of some description) out there for everyone? When you've got people like Stephen Hawking's who can't do anything for himself, yet is one of the most recognised physicists of this age, and you've got people with no arms who have trained themselves to do daily activities with their mouth/feet - an inspiration to us all, surely? Why on earth is it deemed acceptable to fund those that don't, or haven't contributed?

Why should a young mother, or immigrant be given a house to live? Why should an immigrant that hasn't paid towards the economy be entitled to any benefits or our medical system? Why should people be given money merely for being incapable of getting off their ass and doing something (however productive) with their lives?

Someone explain this to me, cause I'm obviously missing some fundamental explanations for all of this.”


This is what happens when you take what's written in the far rightwing rag the daily mail as the truth; using Hawking as an example shows this to be the case because by using that example then every able bodied person should be able to run as fast as Usain Bolt!!

As far as the assertion that there must be work out there for everyone it turns out that the actual test is is it reasonable to expect someone to work if they have some mental or physical disability....note the word reasonable.

So yes you're clearly missing quite a lot. Best not to think about it too much as it may cause you brain overload.
Keyser_Soze1
07-12-2016
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walterwhite
07-12-2016
Should have posted earlier about my struggle to get carers allowance. The letter saying we'd got it arrived about an hour after my post.
francie
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Should have posted earlier about my struggle to get carers allowance. The letter saying we'd got it arrived about an hour after my post.”

Well done walter.
Chihiro77
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Should have posted earlier about my struggle to get carers allowance. The letter saying we'd got it arrived about an hour after my post.”

Good news!
walterwhite
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“Well done walter. ”

Thanks. It's been just under 8 weeks since application I think, back pay of over £500 going in this week apparently. Been an awful, awful year and this has just been another stress but all sorted now.
francie
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Thanks. It's been just under 8 weeks since application I think, back pay of over £500 going in this week apparently. Been an awful, awful year and this has just been another stress but all sorted now.”

Hope it's a sign of better things to come for the New Year. Treat yourselves with that £500.
walterwhite
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“Hope it's a sign of better things to come for the New Year. Treat yourselves with that £500.”

Christmas is back on!

I bet this is really winding up the anti-benefits people.
francie
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Christmas is back on!

I bet this is really winding up the anti-benefits people.”

Can't comment on how others will feel but I know how stressful it is for all concerned when claiming benefits - I know a few waiting to hear about their (ESA and PIP) claims atm.
Flash525
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I recognise quite a few posters here based on their comments about women. You're one of them.”

I remember you from exchanges we've had in the past, on other subjects. You jump to conclusions all the time. You have been wrong before, and you're wrong now.

Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“So yes you're clearly missing quite a lot. Best not to think about it too much as it may cause you brain overload.”

If your intention here is in an attempt to mock and humiliate, you'd be better off finding another victim.
CELT1987
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“I remember you from exchanges we've had in the past, on other subjects. You jump to conclusions all the time. You have been wrong before, and you're wrong now.

If your intention here is in an attempt to mock and humiliate, you'd be better off finding another victim.”

You started the thread attacking benefit claiments without researching it first. You yourself have jumped to conclusions about people on benefits.
GusGus
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Christmas is back on!

I bet this is really winding up the anti-benefits people.”

Why should that be?
I think you will find that most sensible people are very happy that deserving claimants obtain benefits they are entitled to. It's those spurious claimants who bleed the system and leave less in the pot for the genuine
walterwhite
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“Why should that be?
I think you will find that most sensible people are very happy that deserving claimants obtain benefits they are entitled to. It's those spurious claimants who bleed the system and leave less in the pot for the genuine”

Yes I know, you've mentioned it. How do you know i'm not a spurious claimant?
Flash525
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by CELT1987:
“You started the thread attacking benefit claiments without researching it first. You yourself have jumped to conclusions about people on benefits.”

You're right, I have, and I'm more than happy to admit my error - I was wrong!
Pitman
07-12-2016
in Thatcher's day it was a piece of piss to have a claim up, I remember at one time you only had to bonk on every two months, good old Thatch
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