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The Benefit System
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muggins14
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“in Thatcher's day it was a piece of piss to have a claim up, I remember at one time you only had to bonk on every two months, good old Thatch ”

I remember being unemployed in the 80's and being allowed to work on Sundays without having to declare Sunday income!
Pitman
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I remember being unemployed in the 80's and being allowed to work on Sundays without having to declare Sunday income!”

and the wheels still turned, the only ones laughing now are the landlords coining it in
srpsrp
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“The actual split of the welfare budget is as follows:

Pensions 42%
Family benefits/income support/tax credits (for working and non-working families) 17%
Incapacity, disability & injury benefits 16%
Personal social services and other benefits 13%
Housing benefits (to help provide a roof over the heads of working and non-working claimants) 10%
Unemployment benefits 1%

http://visual.ons.gov.uk/welfare-spending/”

I'm on JSA and get council tax allowance.

I was keen to get into Web development and trained myself up on it. All I hear from DWP is that I need to apply for Tesco jobs etc etc and it's completely destroyed any enthusiasm for getting back to work I had at all.

These big employers like Tesco are allowed to get away with only offering part time jobs on poverty wages. I've just looked at a B&Q job, they want to offer a 7.5 hours a week contact. Yeah right. And if you take such a job they also expect you to be available to work extra hours when ever they ask.

If I took a job at Tesco for example I'd end up being about £20 a week better off. What's the point ?

Give job seekers a pay rise is what I say, so they can afford training or have a bit of a morale boosting treat once in a while. With what I've had in benefits over the years they could have sent me on a decent Web development course many times over.
Sife Lucks
07-12-2016
You have a choice in life to focus on the positives or the negatives. You can sit there and complain and get wound up about the "immigrants" and the "slobs" (etc) who don't "deserve" benefits and are "stealing" all your hard earned money or you can focus on the positives and think of the poor families and disabled who are benefiting from your money and food is being put on their table thanks to your taxes.

Me, I choose to focus on the positives and thus am a happier person because of it. Why get wound up? Jeez.
GusGus
07-12-2016
"If I took a job at Tesco for example I'd end up being about £20 a week better off. What's the point ?"

You would get the satisfaction that comes from working rather than sitting idle
GusGus
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Yes I know, you've mentioned it. How do you know i'm not a spurious claimant?”

I have no idea if you are, or if you are not
If you are then you are draining the pot from the needy. If you are not - good for you
WhatJoeThinks
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“"If I took a job at Tesco for example I'd end up being about £20 a week better off. What's the point ?"

You would get the satisfaction that comes from working rather than sitting idle”

If you ever have any free time on your hands please PM me. I have lots of things that you could do for me. I can only afford to pay you 50p per hour, but satisfaction is guaranteed!
GusGus
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“If you ever have any free time on your hands please PM me. I have lots of things that you could do for me. I can only afford to pay you 50p per hour, but satisfaction is guaranteed! ”


You couldn't have described the problem any better, well done
tim59
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“I have no idea if you are, or if you are not
If you are then you are draining the pot from the needy. If you are not - good for you”

Well if he has been awarded carers allowance, which is for looking after a disabled person full time. And is saving the state money, as carers save the state 119 billion a year
WhatJoeThinks
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“You couldn't have described the problem any better, well done ”

I'm assuming that whenever you're not working you're 'sitting idle'. I realize that's a gross assumption though.
GusGus
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“I'm assuming that whenever you're not working you're 'sitting idle'. I realize that's a gross assumption though.”

Never make assumptions
walterwhite
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“Well if he has been awarded carers allowance, which is for looking after a disabled person full time. And is saving the state money, as carers save the state 119 billion a year”

Correct. Well it's my wife actually. I work full time but my son is disabled so we get DLA and Carers allowance. It's a total of about £500 a month, considering my wife has had to give up a full time job paying about triple that then we aren't exactly better off.
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