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I wasn't being personal. You have to realise I also have a lot of experience of the mental health professions, from the other side, and I just say what I see, and it's not just me either.
For example, currently my nephew is sectioned on a psychiatric ward and one of the nurses (I think she is Spanish or South American) has taken very much against me when I have come to visit him. She treats the place like her personal fiefdom and feels extremely threatened when I strike up conversations with patients that actually treat them like human beings rather than dangerous lunatics. I brought some clothes for him that he left at my house and she decided to go off on a tirade about how they were a 'weird' type of clothes (Indian-style white linen outfit) and that I was making him worse by bringing them, and how he had been calm before I had arrived. The way she spoke to me as a visitor was quite frankly appalling - sheer ignorant pig-headedness that I've only seen rivalled by social workers. The fact that she is looking after extremely vulnerable people is terrifying - I intend to complain but not until he gets out because I am worried she might take it out on him otherwise. So I am sorry you took it personally but I do not hold a high opinion of your profession or mental health workers in general, though I am sure there are a minority who are genuinely moved by a desire to help people, as misguided as the way they are going about it may be. |
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I am sorry you have had negative experiences. I strongly resent your last sentence. I spend every day at work trying to help my patients, I volunteer at samaritans, I fundraise for SAMH, I am an advocate for my patients at tribunals and for you to call me 'misguided' IS a personal comment. I am sorry you have no respect for mental health workers but that's up to you, I wish you good health.
'Misguided' refers to the many medications and therapies prescribed that as you said yourself, can make little to no difference to a person's health, and can often end up making them worse. Many psychiatric medications have long term debilitating side effects, and many therapies from CBT to psychoanalysis are little more than quackery, with the continued excuse when they once again fail to bring about improvement that the patient wasn't 'engaging' or 'making the effort to help themselves'. |
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Look at it as a positive, unless you are trying for a baby it's all the pleasure with none of the mess.
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Look at it as a positive, unless you are trying for a baby it's all the pleasure with none of the mess.
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Please look at the sentence again. Does it say: 'You are misguided' or does it say something else? Are you personally the subject of the sentence?
'Misguided' refers to the many medications and therapies prescribed that as you said yourself, can make little to no difference to a person's health, and can often end up making them worse. Many psychiatric medications have long term debilitating side effects, and many therapies from CBT to psychoanalysis are little more than quackery, with the continued excuse when they once again fail to bring about improvement that the patient wasn't 'engaging' or 'making the effort to help themselves'. What do you suggest then? I have seen patients get better, I have seen patients recover. It is unfortunate that you have not found this to be the case but to suggest that medication and talking therapies have no use is wrong. At times they don't work, rarely they make things worse. It would seem you resent the services and feel that nothing they offer can help you, so what would you like us to do? I |
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As a mental health worker, yes I am the subject of the sentence. The way I go about my work is 'misguided'.
What do you suggest then? I have seen patients get better, I have seen patients recover. It is unfortunate that you have not found this to be the case but to suggest that medication and talking therapies have no use is wrong. At times they don't work, rarely they make things worse. It would seem you resent the services and feel that nothing they offer can help you, so what would you like us to do? I In answer to your questions, I would like the mental health industry to treat its patients better, for workers to actually put themselves in the place of patients, and to stop excusing the ineffectiveness of lousy so-called therapies because no one has come up with something that actually works. |
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You are not the subject - the only interaction I've had with you is on here. Perhaps you're a beacon in a sea of mediocrity, perhaps not. But someone who subscribes to the talking therapy / medication pattern as it is currently pushed by quacks and drug companies may very well be misguided.
In answer to your questions, I would like the mental health industry to treat its patients better, for workers to actually put themselves in the place of patients, and to stop excusing the ineffectiveness of lousy so-called therapies because no one has come up with something that actually works. So, you'd like us to say 'take this - it won't work, it's ineffecive'? Well, that would be a lie because I have seen them work. You haven't given any solutions, just for MH workers to say nothing works. Perhaps they don't for you, they do for others. Do you have any ideas to treat MH conditions? Admittedly Personality disorders can be difficult to treat in any way but Psychoses and mood disorders etc certainly can be treated with the treatments you are so keen to disparage. |
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You described all MH workers, I am one. I think I might stop raising money for SAMH or volunteering for the Samaritans as I'm so misguided and I'm not helping.
So, you'd like us to say 'take this - it won't work, it's ineffecive'? Well, that would be a lie because I have seen them work. You haven't given any solutions, just for MH workers to say nothing works. Perhaps they don't for you, they do for others. Do you have any ideas to treat MH conditions? Admittedly Personality disorders can be difficult to treat in any way but Psychoses and mood disorders etc certainly can be treated with the treatments you are so keen to disparage. How much long-term followup, years later, have you had with patients? In my experience the majoirity of people live with a mental health condition their whole life, which fluctuates in the suffering it causes, and the best they can hope for is to 'manage' it (read nod politely and try not to make a fuss, because self-pity is so boring and you clearly aren't making the effort). Do we tell people with broken legs to 'heal themselves'? I don't have any ideas, in fact I think mental illness may be an inevitable thing for any reasonably sensitive person living in society as it set up, but it is not my job to come up with them, and not my inclination when I can't to pretend there is already a solution if only the patient wouldn't be so awkward. |
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I love my orgasms and I probably should've stated that antidepressants wasn't what I was looking to go back on a few weeks ago.
Because I had a crap experience with Fluoxetine I really wanted to steer clear, this was more a doctor suggestion which I agreed to, but not cummin' is just awful! |
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I found sertraline killed my sexdrive almost entirely.
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Please look at the sentence again. Does it say: 'You are misguided' or does it say something else? Are you personally the subject of the sentence?
'Misguided' refers to the many medications and therapies prescribed that as you said yourself, can make little to no difference to a person's health, and can often end up making them worse. Many psychiatric medications have long term debilitating side effects, and many therapies from CBT to psychoanalysis are little more than quackery, with the continued excuse when they once again fail to bring about improvement that the patient wasn't 'engaging' or 'making the effort to help themselves'. |
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I would love to know if others have experienced this, I believe it's a side effect though not actually written on the box/leaflet thingy.
I was on Fluoxetine this time last year until about March. it did absolutely nothing for me...couldn't sleep at night but could sleep all day, felt irritable, felt generally more depressed than ever and....couldn't ejaculate! Well i could, but it took HOURS. Most frustrating. Anyway, after an abysmal year with my mental health (another long story) I was put on Citalopram two weeks ago. Now, I have to say I have no bad side effects except I couldn't sleep at night and surprise surprise....can't cum! So I've come off them as of yesterday, and today? CAN CUM. This is a miracle tbh But the thing is, the citalopram was actually helping, I felt a bit better, but the lack of sleep and not cummin' is just a mean experience. |
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I found sertraline killed my sexdrive almost entirely.
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They're still in your system, after only missing one dose it's unlikely to account for the change. If you're not doing so already, take it in the morning which lowers the chance of it affecting your sleep.. Two weeks isn't enough time to assess their suitability, it takes at least 4-6 weeks.
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I've been on Citalopram long term and I've noticed this too. However, I can still have sex 2/3 times a week and 'finish', which is OK for me and the girlfriend. My days of 2 or 3 times a night are long gone!
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I've been on fluoxetine for years. The psychiatrist said that delayed ejaculation is one of the classic side effects of this drug. I can't speak for the others but it is a known problem. My sex drive is lowered considerably while on antidepressants (although some of that could be me getting older), problem I have with them is that if I came off them I'd be so anxious and worried I wouldn't even think about sex any way so it's a vicious circle really.
I will say these drugs have helped me a lot in dealing with anxiety and that is worth a lot to me. Good luck op finding which ones are right for you. |
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You've had a couple of, in your opinion, bad experiences and choose to tar all social workers and mental health nurses with the same brush. It's funny that you keep having these experiences and it's you that notices all these things going on. Very strange...
And who says it's just me noticing these things? |
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I've been on Citalopram long term and I've noticed this too. However, I can still have sex 2/3 times a week and 'finish', which is OK for me and the girlfriend. My days of 2 or 3 times a night are long gone!
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I like to cum around 4 times per day and this just once malarkey wasn't doing me any favors at all. It took me AGES to "get there".
I was laying there feeling somewhat inhuman |
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I like to cum around 4 times per day and this just once malarkey wasn't doing me any favors at all. It took me AGES to "get there".
I was laying there feeling somewhat inhuman |
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If you can't live with it then you could ask to try Mirtazapine which doesn't have those effects. No problems with orgasming and you sleep really easily. It does make you feel like your body is made out of lead and your brain is full of wool though.
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Try Mirtazapine
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I have the same problem, so I just stopped taking them, **** that. Rather be miserable than impotent.
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I like to cum around 4 times per day and this just once malarkey wasn't doing me any favors at all. It took me AGES to "get there".
I was laying there feeling somewhat inhuman http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2189794 |
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