Anyone still think the show isn’t capable of affecting the public vote after Matts treatment on Saturday night?

He went from being seemingly untouchable to bottom 2 following performances that were no worse and in some cases better than previous weeks when he’s sailed through after being handed a combination of bad press, poor staging, and bad comments.

So all these supporters that the nay sayers constantly remind us know their own minds and cannot be influenced just suddenly woke up this week and decided they didn’t like Matt any more?????

It seems to me they want saara to win now don't know why,can't see her setting the charts on fire,now the Finland fix.

I don't think they want her to win (even if she should).

They've been pushing for a Matt VS 5AM finale all season, I don't think they will give up on that just yet. And even if they might, they probably will do whatever they can to give the victory to Matt.

Plus, being in the bottom 2 just can help him by getting the rebound vote, which at the finale might make quite a difference.

It doesn't make sense..
I reckon had he not got any negative comments, he wouldn't have been in the bottom two.
His performances were no worse than when he sang Wham and Best Of My Love.

I would have said this weeks performances were considerably better!

They are full on sabotaging him now. Although they can't hate him that much or they'd have sacked him off in the semi final sing off when they had the chance.

Emily had received better comments so I was surprised when they kept Matt over her

They have in no way turned against Matt. They don't want everyone thinking Matt has always had this in the bag and that the show/the final is unpredictable, so they've manipulated the show so that everyone in the final has been in the bottom 2 to make it seem like it really is a close race where any one of them could take it and Matt didn't just effortlessly take it and have it in the bag all year but had to fight for it.

Last Saturday's comments were clearly gunned at a Matt/Emily bottom 2, but they've been trying to slow down Emily and get her out for weeks now. Especially as she'd have Ryan's votes too, she would be very dangerous in the finals. If you listen to the way the judges talk about Matt, even Simon on the Xtra Factor after Emily was eliminated, they still want him to win this. And he's very desperate to win this.

I don't think the song choices were right for him, at this point it's all about choosing the right songs and I guess he just didn't. It could just be that people expected him to be safe but people tend to vote harder in the last few weeks and they usually get a lot more votes coming in for the semi-final so people can't get complacent. That being said I still think he should have been safe and 5 After Midnight should have been in the sing off.

BAsed on my knowledge of what the plan was (MAtt fits closest to desired "winner"/girl and band in semis), and how the show operates, I actually predicted a Matt/Emily sing off with Emily going home after reading about the semi-de-pimping of Matt,and without having wacthed since Relley's send off.I don't need to because I heard enough to know what the acts can do and because the producers,if you know the game,are *that* predictable


It actually makes sense they did this at top4. Because a few people, myself included, made very clear since before the show what was going to happen,how and why,they had to try to make it seem less manipulated for a Matt win.Saara is great when singing a suitable genre to her limited comfort zone but generally awful outside that zone, hence the ideal "competition" for the "winner" as she is credible as a finalist yet can easily be sent home with no manipulation beyond an uptempo song selection and/or one requiring soulful vocals .Matt's "outing" puts him on equal footing with her as far as what producers likely see as the "lgbt" vote( yeah they actually think this way lol)and the de pimping happened at the "perfect" time as in right before the semis and against the last act remaining who he can out sing...expect hi to "really come back" this week .

After jumping through so many bs hoops I hope all 3 acts see success

Having said all this ,you're right.It did prove how easily the public can be influenced.

You don't think they'll push 5AM for the win, Singy? And what do you think about their miming controversies? That is, the fact that only one of them consistently appears to be actually singing, and they're generally drowned out by a backing track and backing singers and then given effusive praise that never mentions this.

Written quite the story there. But the thing is that post hoc justifications are what anyone can do. It's just writing a fiction that is vaguely plausible to a certain group who have particular prejudices about the show. If you could accurately predict each voting event before it happened, then that would be evidence for this claim. The above is just stating what happened after the fact with the benefit of a contrived narrative about the machinations of 'sinister' producers.

Feel free to look at some of my pre show posts, or, ask a few forum members about things I messaged to them that I could not spoiler just yet at the time(Including the OP of this thread), including Honey G in the lives while she was officially "out" when her category had some of the best in it and that both Nate and Niall were NOT through which was ridiculous with a side of Matt will be in the final and likely win As I did not know how it would go *every* week I stuck to those things I could get away with sharing without causing trouble for some people and that I was certain of such as that they sent the best boys home because they wanted a ale *boyband type pop* "winner" (actually said by producers pre judges house "decisions",............It would indeed be easy to claim predictions after the fact but I made some before the fact that seemed ridiculous at the time ,because I *knew* they were true and would happen,Again feel free to check

They're not sabotaging him, he's just not that great and never has been.

Spot on. The staggeringly obvious portrayed as insider knowledge.

Matt had a bad week, with two patchy performances of dull songs. The mauling he received from Cowell was more than justified. He fully deserved to find himself in the bottom two, and he was soundly beaten in the sing-off by a supposedly weaker act. The shock on the faces of Saara and 5AM after the judges" absurd decision to send Emily home said it all.

Cowell clearly wants 5AM to win, and he set the stage for that with his comments after the sing-off a week ago. No 'deramping', no 'de-pimping' (because Matt hadn't been pimped in the first place), and no Sofabet drivel (despite 25% of the posts in this thread being paraphrased from that tedious website). Matt simply gave him the ammunition.

I've never noticed it before, but it was really noticeable on Saturday

I have said it here before - he is limp, unengaging and just a moderate crooner. No charisma and a guaranteed failure in the charts

BIB and you don't think he had a worse week with "the best of my love" and "I'm your man" ?? Much worse performances and yet he was praised to high heaven!

Keep going, I'm enjoying the paranoia that evil forces are gaining traction in their orchestrated plan to make an act win, but no can agree which act is being set up to win. Makes lots of sense and definitely isn't crazy.

With respect, others predicted the same also. I could have put money on Emily going home even if she was in the bottom with 5AM or Saara.

One can only speculate.

^^this. He's been over praised all season. About time he was judged with a little perspective.

I don't think he was up to much any week, but this was the semi final.