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Old 06-12-2016, 08:01
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Throughout this armed raid nonsense I have been left wondering what was the motivation for Lee's work colleagues to help him?

He hasn't got on well with Oz since day one so I find it hard to believe he'd want to get involved. I'm finding this whole story very frustrating!
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Old 06-12-2016, 08:06
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It's random isn't it. You've made my life hell, but I've got this great idea for us to make some money and victimise my family instead...
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Old 06-12-2016, 08:57
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Yep it's a complete SOR, why would they help him and more to the point why would he trust them to, but since they have now decided not to help him just makes him look even more of a tool.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:00
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How did the conversation go, was it right after Oz did his daily bullying towards Lee..
Oz: Oi!! *cuts of Lee's sale call* I made my 100th sale today, you're gonna get the sack.. I wanna bang your wife.
Lee: Let's rob my family
Oz:
Lee: We both get half the cash, after weeks of being around you I know you are trustworthy and won't hurt my family and you'll share the money.. deal
Oz: ehh ok.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:08
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How did the conversation go, was it right after Oz did his daily bullying towards Lee..
Oz: Oi!! *cuts of Lee's sale call* I made my 100th sale today, you're gonna get the sack.. I wanna bang your wife.
Lee: Let's rob my family
Oz:
Lee: We both get half the cash, after weeks of being around you I know you are trustworthy and won't hurt my family and you'll share the money.. deal
Oz: ehh ok.
You forgot to add that Oz would then say "What about banging your wife?"

Lee: "Would it mean I get a bigger share of the money?"
Oz: Err no, unless it includes your mum too?
Lee: "Ok that's a deal."
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:45
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Oz to me seems a decent lad who has been trying to get on with Lee, but Lee is the one causing the trouble now !
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:48
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Oz to me seems a decent lad who has been trying to get on with Lee, but Lee is the one causing the trouble now !
Oz is an arrogant prick, but hey if that's your idea of a decent lad who am I to disagree.
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:49
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Oz is an arrogant prick, but hey if that's your idea of a decent lad who am I to disagree.
No but he was trying to get on with Lee yesterday, Lee was very dismissive and passive aggressive.
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:51
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Oz to me seems a decent lad who has been trying to get on with Lee, but Lee is the one causing the trouble now !
He doesn't seem 'decent' in the slightest.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:03
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He doesn't seem 'decent' in the slightest.
Me neither. I suspect he had no intention of giving Lee his cut regardless, Lee just gave him a handy excuse.

Makes me wonder why he was so keen on Lees idea in the first place. Surely he's getting a decent wage because of his high commission, or was it just the thought that he's got somethi else over Lee. It puts him in control I suppose.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:09
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Me neither. I suspect he had no intention of giving Lee his cut regardless, Lee just gave him a handy excuse.

Makes me wonder why he was so keen on Lees idea in the first place. Surely he's getting a decent wage because of his high commission, or was it just the thought that he's got somethi else over Lee. It puts him in control I suppose.
He is very clearly a sociopath. Craves attention, has to be in control, has an obvious sadistic side, can switch on the charm effortlessly after being completely vile... I wouldn't be surprised if he implanted the idea in Lee's head and has now convinced him he was the one to come up with it. He knew that Lee was struggling for money and lying to his wife so it would have been easy to probe into his mindset and drop hints about what he should do. Lee is particularly susceptible to that kind of behavior due to his depression and self-loathing. Like you said, he probably never planned on giving Lee the money.

I wish we'd seen the original conversation between them that led to the plan being formed.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:16
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He is very clearly a sociopath. Craves attention, has to be in control, has an obvious sadistic side, can switch on the charm effortlessly after being completely vile... I wouldn't be surprised if he implanted the idea in Lee's head and has now convinced him he was the one to come up with it. He knew that Lee was struggling for money and lying to his wife so it would have been easy to probe into his mindset and drop hints about what he should do. Lee is particularly susceptible to that kind of behavior due to his depression and self-loathing. Like you said, he probably never planned on giving Lee the money.

I wish we'd seen the original conversation between them that led to the plan being formed.
Yeah I can see why they didn't, because they wanted to keep the attack as a surprise. However we could have done with seeing how Lee came to the decision to rob his own family.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:19
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Me neither. I suspect he had no intention of giving Lee his cut regardless, Lee just gave him a handy excuse.

Makes me wonder why he was so keen on Lees idea in the first place. Surely he's getting a decent wage because of his high commission, or was it just the thought that he's got somethi else over Lee. It puts him in control I suppose.
I worry that they've got a hold over Lee now...maybe they even recorded the original conversation. He could get him involved in more crime, one where someone does get seriously hurt. And of course Lee would end up as the fall guy. As elly says it could be that prison beckons.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:19
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Yeah I can see why they didn't, because they wanted to keep the attack as a surprise. However we could have done with seeing how Lee came to the decision to rob his own family.
Hopefully it will be explored through dialogue between them at some stage. Now that Oz has this hold over Lee I doubt he'll let go so easily. He clearly gets a kick out of treating Lee like this.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:33
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I worry that they've got a hold over Lee now...maybe they even recorded the original conversation. He could get him involved in more crime, one where someone does get seriously hurt. And of course Lee would end up as the fall guy. As elly says it could be that prison beckons.
I think I would prefer prison or a vanishing act over suicide as Lees exit.

Currently, the following have all had a child die

Dot
Max
Ian
Ronnie
Jack
Shirley
Kathy
Billy
Patrick
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:46
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I think I would prefer prison or a vanishing act over suicide as Lees exit.

Currently, the following have all had a child die

Dot
Max
Ian
Ronnie
Jack
Shirley
Kathy
Billy
Patrick
Me too.

I rather like that they have blown this story wide open.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:52
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I know Lee is a pure eejit but what was he thinking giving one of the lads his wallet back? How foolish was that? At least if he had kept it, he would have had some leverage over them, making them less likely to grass him up (and vice versa).
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Old 06-12-2016, 17:21
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I think I would prefer prison or a vanishing act over suicide as Lees exit.

Currently, the following have all had a child die

Dot
Max
Ian
Ronnie
Jack
Shirley
Kathy
Billy
Patrick
I think he will go to prison, if Ollie hadn't been involved I could see Mick forgiving him but after the way Mick behaved towards Nancy after Ollies's accident I can't see him forgiving Lee
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Old 06-12-2016, 17:25
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I know Lee is a pure eejit but what was he thinking giving one of the lads his wallet back? How foolish was that? At least if he had kept it, he would have had some leverage over them, making them less likely to grass him up (and vice versa).
He had no proof that he found it in the Vic.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:22
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he could have hid the wallet like Matthew Rose did like hid it in the boiler room then finds it burnt when he needs the evidence!
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:08
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He should just threaten them with the police. Surely he could say he recognised the voices.

If they imply Lee was involved he could easily say they're lying. I'd hazard a guess that the police would believe him.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:15
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This storyline is pants, I can hardly watch it.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:08
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He should just threaten them with the police. Surely he could say he recognised the voices.

If they imply Lee was involved he could easily say they're lying. I'd hazard a guess that the police would believe him.
The trouble is Lee isn't thinking straight. He's depressed and his judgement has gone out of the window. He would be likely to crack under questioning from either the police or pressure from the bullies.

Equally no rationally-thinking person would have marched up the office and flung the wallet at not-Paul-Coker in full view of everyone working there, including his manager.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:15
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Maybe if they hadn't bothered with the jokey way that everyone thinks Lees got a better job than he has angle, the storyline might t be better but all the nonsense of them buying Lee office cliché style presents just make it comical and silly.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:18
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It's random isn't it. You've made my life hell, but I've got this great idea for us to make some money and victimise my family instead...
Very bad storyline, and i don't know how Lee could stay in Walford after this. Maybe they are preparing his exit.
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