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Old 06-12-2016, 20:12
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I don't remember Matt DA's salsa, but (and I can't believe I'm saying this!) to be fair to Anton, Alesha's cha was NOT that good. Her knees were bent nearly the whole time, which - next to being off time - is the absolute biggest NO NO in cha cha cha.
Len gave it ten both times didn't he?

I'm sure your right but I still love that dance.
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Old 06-12-2016, 20:15
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Apparently it wasn't the fact that she left for a rival tv show that upset the Strictly bods, it was the way in which she did it. A lot goes on behind the scenes that we do not get to hear about.
Yes she was rather sneaky about it and told nobody until she left. I thought it was disappointing given how much she owed Strictly but there you go in the past.
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Old 06-12-2016, 20:18
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Originally Posted by sofakat;84807945[B
]Oh don't be silly! He's about as charismatic and an old facecloth abandoned on a sink.

He is NOT a presenter, he is not overly bright and he simply does not have the gravitas to do it.

His forays into TV presenting have been a utter disaster. Just because he's there does not mean he deserves the slot.[
/B]Fresh blood please - and please not some po-faced ballroom 'expert' from an obscure off the map town. They are never interesting. And brains would be nice. And some wit? I know, I know - too much to hope for
but apart from that, anton's ok, right?
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Old 06-12-2016, 21:05
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Hey, it wasn't me who came up with the either/or alternative...
I know
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Old 06-12-2016, 21:06
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Apparently it wasn't the fact that she left for a rival tv show that upset the Strictly bods, it was the way in which she did it. A lot goes on behind the scenes that we do not get to hear about.
It's a shame really if only she'd ever become a judge - marred a lot of memories of a fun and at least reasonably good contestant. The Peter Principal incarnate.
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Old 06-12-2016, 21:31
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I like Karen fine enough on ITT but I wouldn't want to see her replace LEN. I'm sorry but she would be grating as a judge 😤😤.

As for Anton, absolutely NOT 😒
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Old 06-12-2016, 21:31
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Anton is not a qualified judge - being able to dance does not qualify one to judge the only one of the Strictly people with the experience to do it (and I personally don't want her to) is Karen Hardy - who is a world ranking judge already.

There are plenty of judges out there with the right mix of expertise and tv skills for it not to be necessary to go for someone 'in house' will be interesting to see who they do go for in the end
BIB - that's not true, Ian was judging at the Internationals a couple of months ago.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:10
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It's a shame really if only she'd ever become a judge - marred a lot of memories of a fun and at least reasonably good contestant. The Peter Principal incarnate.
She has the second best average judges score ever, behind Natalie Gumede more then just reasonable I would have thought and that was Arlene on the panel.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:17
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There's a risk if Karen became a judge that she'd get up and try to demonstrate something!
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:35
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There's a risk if Karen became a judge that she'd get up and try to demonstrate something!
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:56
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There's a risk if Karen became a judge that she'd get up and try to demonstrate something!
Her gurning makes JR's face look dead. Craig would have a cow.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:03
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I like Karen fine enough on ITT but I wouldn't want to see her replace LEN. I'm sorry but she would be grating as a judge 😤😤.

As for Anton, absolutely NOT 😒
No to Anton and definitely no to Karen. She'd be so annoying ... I think the forum would implode 😂😂😂
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:12
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No to Anton and definitely no to Karen. She'd be so annoying ... I think the forum would implode 😂😂😂
Well that sounds like fun so now I want it to happen. Karen for Head Judge please!
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:05
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I don't want Anton as a judge, but the objections to him on grounds of capability are spurious in my view. I'm sure Anton is perfectly capable of critiquing a Latin dance. He doesn't have to be a good dancer to do that, just to understand the technique which he will have theoretically learnt. Just how other Latin focussed pros would react to that is another matter though.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:09
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There's a risk if Karen became a judge that she'd get up and try to demonstrate something!
I believe that is Bruno's role, isn't it?
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:55
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I don't want Anton as a judge, but the objections to him on grounds of capability are spurious in my view. I'm sure Anton is perfectly capable of critiquing a Latin dance. He doesn't have to be a good dancer to do that, just to understand the technique which he will have theoretically learnt. Just how other Latin focussed pros would react to that is another matter though.
Perception is important though. Len is perceived to be a 'proper' judge and I think that's different from 'being capable'. Anton knows miles more about Latin technique than I ever will (not a high bar ), but he's made so much capital over the years dissing it that I wouldn't be able to take his comments without eye-rolling, irrespective of whether he was right or not.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:52
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Perception is important though. Len is perceived to be a 'proper' judge and I think that's different from 'being capable'. Anton knows miles more about Latin technique than I ever will (not a high bar ), but he's made so much capital over the years dissing it that I wouldn't be able to take his comments without eye-rolling, irrespective of whether he was right or not.
Yes, I totally agree. The issue is one of perception. You want a judge to have 100% enthusiasm and commitment to the dance style they are judging.
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:08
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You may as well include Craig and Bruno in that - they 're no more qualified than Darcey (you could argue less...). The only qualified judge, love him or hate him, is Len. To replace him with someone less qualified would leave the panel without any credibility at all. If we must have someone like Anton on the panel [*shudder*], then he should be there instead of one of the other three.
Ms Hardy is a recognised world judge is she not?

Lies back and gets popcorn ready.
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:10
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I believe that is Bruno's role, isn't it?
Can you imagine the two of them with arms flailing as they describe a move?
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Old 07-12-2016, 13:51
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but apart from that, anton's ok, right?
His ballroom dancing is impeccable. That can never be disputed - and the WI adore him!
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:01
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I don't want Anton as a judge, but the objections to him on grounds of capability are spurious in my view. I'm sure Anton is perfectly capable of critiquing a Latin dance. He doesn't have to be a good dancer to do that, just to understand the technique which he will have theoretically learnt. Just how other Latin focussed pros would react to that is another matter though.
He's been on the show what seems like decades and hasn't even managed to work out what a salsa actually it much less the technique involved. He's not a qualified judge. He's biases will be questioned every year with him on the panel. And he's an annoying pillock.
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:04
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What an absolutely patronising and ridiculous post. You have no idea whether he is 'overly bright' or not, you don't know him. I wouldn't particularly want to see him as a judge but I'm not so self absorbed as to think the whole show should be geered around me and what I think is witty.
And you have no idea who I am, so you will not actually know what my experience is, where I work or what I know - or how well placed I am to judge whether Anton could hack it or not.

You don't like someone's opinion? It's a forum not a tea party, so what do you expect?

It's better not to make any assumptions about other people who post here. You may be very wrong.
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:04
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He's been on the show what seems like decades and hasn't even managed to work out what a salsa actually it much less the technique involved. He's not a qualified judge. He's biases will be questioned every year with him on the panel. And he's an annoying pillock.
*stands up and cheers* !
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:07
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[quote=kaycee;84810969

Gary Edwards would tick all those boxes![/QUOTE]

I'll take your word for it. You do know your stuff
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:12
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Oh don't be silly! He's about as charismatic and an old facecloth abandoned on a sink.

He is NOT a presenter, he is not overly bright and he simply does not have the gravitas to do it.

His forays into TV presenting have been a utter disaster. Just because he's there does not mean he deserves the slot.

Fresh blood please - and please not some po-faced ballroom 'expert' from an obscure off the map town. They are never interesting. And brains would be nice. And some wit? I know, I know - too much to hope for
Miaou to you too! I wonder if the BBC would have done anything so blindingly obvious as to ask the opinions of the Pro dancers.
And as for the other blindingly obvious solution - just three judges?
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