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I thought the period for concluding negotiations was 2 years? That's what I kept reading in the papers. Now out of the blue we have 18 months?
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I thought the period for concluding negotiations was 2 years? That's what I kept reading in the papers. Now out of the blue we have 18 months?
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I thought the period for concluding negotiations was 2 years? That's what I kept reading in the papers. Now out of the blue we have 18 months?
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Then we will be leaving on WTO terms - which will not be in the EU's best interests, plus we won't be subsidising the rest of the EU.
If it's a clean Brexit then so be it. A big thank you to the EU for setting out their no-negotiation position because it means we won't need to read endless threads about soft brexit, freedom of movement, paying part-contributions, etc. We will be clean away, standing on our own feet, whilst the EU slowly implodes (but strictly stands by its freedoms). |
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Ooh er
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live EU27 priorities: 1) EU unity 2) inferior deal to membership 3) no negotiations before A50 4) 4 freedoms are indivisible |
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To ensure unity Juncker and a number of governments ministers have ruled out referendums on EU membership in case the people vote to leave. Seems the EU is no longer a voluntary union
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I thought the period for concluding negotiations was 2 years? That's what I kept reading in the papers. Now out of the blue we have 18 months?
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I thought the period for concluding negotiations was 2 years? That's what I kept reading in the papers. Now out of the blue we have 18 months?
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The exit negotiations are going to be about house-keeping (what to do with civil servants, MEPs, who gets custody of the staplers etc) and not about trade. That should only take 18 months, surely.
Trade talks begin once we are out. |
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The exit negotiations are going to be about house-keeping (what to do with civil servants, MEPs, who gets custody of the staplers etc) and not about trade. That should only take 18 months, surely.
Trade talks begin once we are out. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-35223877.html It won't scupper Brexit, it is possible but unlikely it will delay it. But it would probably have been ignored if the UK hadn't brought it up. |
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The A50 negotiations only cover leaving the EU and dealing with anything related.
How much money do we owe the EU; how are fishing rights split up; what happens to EU citizens in the UK and vice versa among hundreds of other things. The aim of those negotiations is to remove the UK from the EU and give it third country status. The negotiations for this should be complete in 18 months to allow 6 months for ratification by the EU27 and the UK. After that negotiations for a new relationship start which might well take decades. As Barnier alluded to - there is the possibility to agree on an interim status for the UK during A50 negotiations which is based on the A50 premise that exit talks should take into consideration the future relationship. So during the A50 negotiations the EU and the UK could decide that the UK will have EEA status for up to X years rather than dropping out with nothing place. |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live EU27 priorities: 1) EU unity 2) inferior deal to membership 3) no negotiations before A50 4) 4 freedoms are indivisible Considering nobody is supposed to be negotiating until A50 is triggered there's an awful lot of grandstanding going on from our EU "partners". |
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No they haven't. It is a matter for each member state whether or not they hold referenda.
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Considering nobody is supposed to be negotiating until A50 is triggered there's an awful lot of grandstanding going on from our EU "partners".
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Or whether they stay in the EU with or without referenda.
Equally, most (if not all) member states - including us - do not require a referendum to decide to leave, a parliamentary vote would be sufficent in most (if not all) cases. |
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Considering nobody is supposed to be negotiating until A50 is triggered there's an awful lot of grandstanding going on from our EU "partners".
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